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boldie
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #15 on:
May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM »
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #16 on:
May 21, 2009, 02:21:24 PM »
Quote from: boldie on May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
He didn't ruin it Boldie.
I'm never going to risk £1k trying to win £60 anyway. I'm not interested enough in the £60 to bother tbh.
I think if I was doing a lot of betting all the time I'd lay this one because I still think it's wrong. Certainly not massive.
If I was risking any real money on it I would be doing a lot more studying before making the bet I can assure you. It would then be more like £16k to win £1k so it was worth doing.
I'm sure that a quick scour through the net will find the winning hands in most recent WSOP ME, EPT, WPT etc. type tournaments.
I'd be interested to know how many were actually won with High card. I wonder if it's more than 1 in 16?
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GreekStein
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #17 on:
May 21, 2009, 02:23:39 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: boldie on May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
He didn't ruin it Boldie.
I'm never going to risk £1k trying to win £60 anyway. I'm not interested enough in the £60 to bother tbh.
I think if I was doing a lot of betting all the time I'd lay this one because I still think it's wrong. Certainly not massive.
If I was risking any real money on it I would be doing a lot more studying before making the bet I can assure you. It would then be more like £16k to win £1k so it was worth doing.
I'm sure that a quick scour through the net will find the winning hands in most recent WSOP ME, EPT, WPT etc. type tournaments.
I'd be interested to know how many were actually won with High card. I wonder if it's more than 1 in 16?
Yo Matt,
How is it not worth £1k to win £60 but its worth £16k to win £1k.
Surely its the same thing no?
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EvilPie
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #18 on:
May 21, 2009, 03:10:53 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on May 21, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: boldie on May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
He didn't ruin it Boldie.
I'm never going to risk £1k trying to win £60 anyway. I'm not interested enough in the £60 to bother tbh.
I think if I was doing a lot of betting all the time I'd lay this one because I still think it's wrong. Certainly not massive.
If I was risking any real money on it I would be doing a lot more studying before making the bet I can assure you. It would then be more like £16k to win £1k so it was worth doing.
I'm sure that a quick scour through the net will find the winning hands in most recent WSOP ME, EPT, WPT etc. type tournaments.
I'd be interested to know how many were actually won with High card. I wonder if it's more than 1 in 16?
Yo Matt,
How is it not worth £1k to win £60 but its worth £16k to win £1k.
Surely its the same thing no?
Odds wise yes of course but what am I going to do with £60 if I win it?
If I win £1k I can actually do something with it.
This is why I had to quit gambling. I'm not interested in winning small amounts, I want the lot!!
Rouletette with 25p chips is nowhere near as much fun as roulette with £25 chips.
Sure the odds are the same but where's the fun?
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GreekStein
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #19 on:
May 21, 2009, 03:23:27 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on May 21, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: boldie on May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
He didn't ruin it Boldie.
I'm never going to risk £1k trying to win £60 anyway. I'm not interested enough in the £60 to bother tbh.
I think if I was doing a lot of betting all the time I'd lay this one because I still think it's wrong. Certainly not massive.
If I was risking any real money on it I would be doing a lot more studying before making the bet I can assure you. It would then be more like £16k to win £1k so it was worth doing.
I'm sure that a quick scour through the net will find the winning hands in most recent WSOP ME, EPT, WPT etc. type tournaments.
I'd be interested to know how many were actually won with High card. I wonder if it's more than 1 in 16?
Yo Matt,
How is it not worth £1k to win £60 but its worth £16k to win £1k.
Surely its the same thing no?
Odds wise yes of course but what am I going to do with £60 if I win it?
If I win £1k I can actually do something with it.
This is why I had to quit gambling. I'm not interested in winning small amounts, I want the lot!!
Rouletette with 25p chips is nowhere near as much fun as roulette with £25 chips.
Sure the odds are the same but where's the fun?
Did you used to play roulette at Gala Notts Matt?
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EvilPie
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #20 on:
May 21, 2009, 03:33:40 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on May 21, 2009, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on May 21, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: boldie on May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
He didn't ruin it Boldie.
I'm never going to risk £1k trying to win £60 anyway. I'm not interested enough in the £60 to bother tbh.
I think if I was doing a lot of betting all the time I'd lay this one because I still think it's wrong. Certainly not massive.
If I was risking any real money on it I would be doing a lot more studying before making the bet I can assure you. It would then be more like £16k to win £1k so it was worth doing.
I'm sure that a quick scour through the net will find the winning hands in most recent WSOP ME, EPT, WPT etc. type tournaments.
I'd be interested to know how many were actually won with High card. I wonder if it's more than 1 in 16?
Yo Matt,
How is it not worth £1k to win £60 but its worth £16k to win £1k.
Surely its the same thing no?
Odds wise yes of course but what am I going to do with £60 if I win it?
If I win £1k I can actually do something with it.
This is why I had to quit gambling. I'm not interested in winning small amounts, I want the lot!!
Rouletette with 25p chips is nowhere near as much fun as roulette with £25 chips.
Sure the odds are the same but where's the fun?
Did you used to play roulette at Gala Notts Matt?
'fraid so mate. Had to give up though because of afformentioned only wanting to play for lots of money problem.
It's nice when you win but can hurt when it goes wrong.
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GreekStein
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Re: Interesting WSOP bet
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Reply #21 on:
May 21, 2009, 03:43:35 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on May 21, 2009, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on May 21, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 21, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: boldie on May 20, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on May 20, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
If they happen to get it in with AQ and KJ there's only about a 30% chance that neither will end up with a pair anyway.
AK vs AK would be best chance at about 60% to not improve.
This doesn't take in to account the chance of the board pairing anyway.
So you need 2 people playing the biggest HU ever to get it all in pre without a pair - Pretty slim, not good for our bet
Their cards to not pair up - 60/40 at best, 30/70 at worst
The board not to pair - Not sure. I'd guess about 60/40.
One of them not to make a random lucky straight/flush - Not a major problem but needs taking in to account
Worst bet ever imo even at 12 to 1
Edit: If anyone's betting on this let me know. I might give you better than 12's
Thats pretty much assuming the stacks are even though, surely a fair chance of one being outchipped by 6-1/7-1, shoving on several occasions then getting a call by a bigger A, very difficult to price i'd say
you just had to go an ruin it, didn't you?
12-1 is abs massive..
strange thing to bet on though.
He didn't ruin it Boldie.
I'm never going to risk £1k trying to win £60 anyway. I'm not interested enough in the £60 to bother tbh.
I think if I was doing a lot of betting all the time I'd lay this one because I still think it's wrong. Certainly not massive.
If I was risking any real money on it I would be doing a lot more studying before making the bet I can assure you. It would then be more like £16k to win £1k so it was worth doing.
I'm sure that a quick scour through the net will find the winning hands in most recent WSOP ME, EPT, WPT etc. type tournaments.
I'd be interested to know how many were actually won with High card. I wonder if it's more than 1 in 16?
Yo Matt,
How is it not worth £1k to win £60 but its worth £16k to win £1k.
Surely its the same thing no?
Odds wise yes of course but what am I going to do with £60 if I win it?
If I win £1k I can actually do something with it.
This is why I had to quit gambling. I'm not interested in winning small amounts, I want the lot!!
Rouletette with 25p chips is nowhere near as much fun as roulette with £25 chips.
Sure the odds are the same but where's the fun?
Did you used to play roulette at Gala Notts Matt?
'fraid so mate. Had to give up though because of afformentioned only wanting to play for lots of money problem.
It's nice when you win but can hurt when it goes wrong.
Mate I think I remember you from my gala days!
Used to come in on a saturday afternoon with a leather jacket?
You're not exactly small now but were you bigger then too?
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