Good Reveal Hand from $320 20k on I poker (with edit of chips stacks)

[outragous76]

OK here goes - usual format -I will do it in stages - discussion inbetween

Situation - level 2 (25 mins in) - villain been reasonably active in level 1

I have only played 1 hand where i have overcalled an EP raise with 55 (3 prior callers) and didnt get past flop as i missed - both players start hand with circa 4k

................. and finally, please dont say fold pre!

blinds 15/30

Your cards  

i raise UTG +1 to 90  - get flatted by villain in SB - i decided it could be any 2 (top 50% hands)

Flop

     

I obv love it but we are so deep i am not looking to go bust if i miss. Anyway - i decide to press on and try to rep my monster AA/KK and c bet 150 into a 210 pot after he checked it to me.

HOWEVER - he min raised me to 300!

What do you do? - i will tell you my thought processes after some feedback

[RED-DOG]

Flatting seems good to me.   

[GreekStein]

Clarify stack sizes pls

[George2Loose]

Flatting seems good to me.  

Yeh think u should flat- problem is if he's aggro as you say he is, he'll bet the turn if you miss and then you probably have to give it up

[ x ] fold pre
[ x ] check back on flop

[Royal Flush]

b/3b/5b all in imo

[pokerfan]

b/3b/5b all in imo

[outragous76]

b/3b/5b all in imo

I gave this very serious consideration!

No need to delay on this part of the reveal it gets better.

The reason i didnt go with the flushy line - is that I am putting him either on a flopped set 888 or 555 (kinda rule out 10's - i think he raises pre) - or complete and utter air and he is making a play as cheaply as possible to 'feel me out'.  He is never folding the set, and i miss value from him bluffing air. Taking the flopped set line as a serious option, I call and reassess.

George - i dont mind checking back on the flop - but you are only ever playing a small pot, and i could end up with a well disguised nuts if he does have a slow played hand.

I also like the call, because if he has a set - i think on the turn being  oop he has to play his hand 'face up' by putting in a good bet (75% pot) - which I can still call relatively safely given stack sizes

so summary

pot is now 810

stacks are both circa 3.5k

What do you have him on?
Is the call OK given the relative strength of the hand?

I will update with turn card and action in 30 mins

[pokerfan]

you back in to a wheel n bust him

[outragous76]

you back in to a wheel n bust him

[  ] This sure answers my questions

no spoliers from me

[The Camel]

b/3b/5b all in imo

[outragous76]

OK.....................

The turn comes 

villain leads 400 into the 810 pot

I now have flush draw , straight draw and an over card?

What do you have him on?

What is your action now ?

pot 1210 with his bet - i have 3.5k behind

[MC]

Fold pre (I know you said not to mention, but )

Flatting his raise on the flop seems right to me

Guess you have to flat the turn now as well...

[TightEnd]

I have him on a made hand, maybe 555, maybe 2 pair. Stronger than tp good kicker anyway

Don't think your overcard is live

Reckon you have 12 outs most likely and are a 3-1 dog with a card to come.

Fold pre-flop   

[Simon Galloway]

This is one of the few times I think the flat/flat is ok.  The reason is that like Tighty, I have him on a fairly good made hand - good enough for him to go broke with, which means you are getting an attractive price to draw.  If you had serious doubt that you would be getting paid should you hit, then it is obv not so good.  One of those situations where you actually want to be up against a good hand rather than a bad hand...

[outragous76]

OK

The final and concluding part:

I flat call the turn for all of the above reasons. It still left me with 3k which would be plenty if i missed. I had originally had him on a set, however I started to doubt this with his turn bet. I seemed a little small to me. But for the point of caution - i proceeded as thou he did have one.

I also thought that if the flush came - he had no need to put me on it and therefore he might also bluff at it being first to act.

OK................................................

clearly i dont hit the flush or the straight otherwise this reveal makes no sense

The river comes a puke worthy 

He leads 1.2k into a 1500 pot

whats your action? - calling leaves you with 1800