Multi Stage Omaha hand from BoylePoker.com

[TightEnd]

Rory Rees Brennan plays poker for, writes with, and is sponsored by BoylePoker.com. Read his blog on www.boylepokerblog.com.

 
Here is the latest instalment, which I will reveal stage by stage

$5-10 PLO

Pre-flop:

 

UTG (BeanMachine11 $2,160)
CO (tycon87 $1,037)
BTN (Hero $1,791)
SB (heruvim $3,913.27)
BB (cork4ever $1,625) (loose but capable)

• Folded to me on the button in a 5 handed game I am always going to open here. It’s not the greatest hand and I’d really like a higher flush-draw in it, but I’m still on the button, so there’s a good chance I’ll win it pre-flop or else we can just play a pot in position with an alright hand.
• Heruvim who is a good solid regular re-raises from the small-blind to $115, cork4ever flats this from the big-blind, so I make an easy call here. I might as well mention here that had cork4ever just folded I still would’ve called Hervuvims’ 3bet- since my hands still okay and I’m in position and I nearly never pass to 3bets in position (probably less than 5% of the time)
• At this point I suppose I was putting Heruvim on a pretty premium hand, since he’s not that aggressive pre-flop in general and here he has re-raised out of position here. cork4ever’s flat of the re-raise to me meant like a decent KKxx hand or like a good run-down type hand. These weren’t defined reads or anything, but it’s obviously good to start thinking about your opponents possible holdings from the beginning of a hand

Comments please and I will put flop decision up later

[chrisbruce]

Standard play so far

[TightEnd]

Flop:

   


• I flop pretty modestly; bottom pair and an open-ender (only one of which is to the nuts). I thought there was a fair chance hervuvim had missed now that he didn’t continuation bet and thought that cork4ever would bet had he hit with a J9108, they both checked


What do you do when checked to?

[boldie]

check for me you'll get check raised more often than not by decent regs.

p.s. why assume that Cork4ever would bet the absolutes here into a pre-flop button raiser when he himself flatted a raise and re-raise pre??, just how strong do you think he wants to look?

[Karabiner]

I would tend to bet this flop, 3/4 pot-sized bet for me.

[TightEnd]

Next stage

 thought about betting and trying to win it there. However they are both tricky enough players, so trap-checking was possible and I really didn’t want to get blown off my hand by either of them, so I elected to check it back and see what happened on the turn.

Turn:

 

• The Turn came off a Q giving me top and bottom pair to go with my filthy straight-draw. The Q also brought a club flush-draw, but did not change the nuts (J9). Heruvim checked again and cork4ever fires pot.


How do you respond?

[boldie]

I'm weak so fold here

[chrisbruce]

I am happy to check the flop here.

I pass on the turn card as I do not think I am winning.

Possibly losing to the flopped nuts, a bigger hand or a bigger hand with a flush draw.

[GreekStein]

I bet the flop.

Whole hand is opponent dependant though

[TightEnd]

I bet the flop.

Whole hand is opponent dependant though

Anyway, I chose this hand basically because I was chatting to John in The Fitz one night and he was telling me that Tony Cooney previously said to him that he and I had played a very interesting pot

Since I was still looking for a hand to breakdown for the blog, when I got home I went trawling through my Poker Tracker to find it and eventually I did. I hope he doesn’t mind me using this hand here and I guess it should also be noted that I didn’t actually know at the time that “cork4ever” was Tony Cooney, however what I did know is that he was a relatively loose but capable PLO player.

[GreekStein]

I bet the flop because I've got a draw and one blocker to the nuts on a board where we've already said we don't think the reraiser hits this very often and I don't think the BB is going to bluff us often here with stack sizes as they are and being OOP.

I'm looking to take it down now as I don't want it to check round and have to pass to a bet on the turn even though technically our hand has improved with the Q. If we do get flatted we are likely to be able to peel a free one on the turn if need be too.

By betting the flop here we are going to take the pot down a lot of the time and opponents actions are going to put their hand face up allowing us to bluff/valuebet more effectively or pass when we are behind.

[Karabiner]

Checking the flop is just surrendering the hand and why would you do that having called the RR and semi-connected ?

You have a better than 50/50 chance of winning this right now imo, it's a bit like B on B but with better EV.

No Omaha player of sound mind is going to trap/check the n/str on rainbow flop without top set and if that is the case vul son.

[AlexMartin]

I bet the flop because I've got a draw and one blocker to the nuts on a board where we've already said we don't think the reraiser hits this very often and I don't think the BB is going to bluff us often here with stack sizes as they are and being OOP.

I'm looking to take it down now as I don't want it to check round and have to pass to a bet on the turn even though technically our hand has improved with the Q. If we do get flatted we are likely to be able to peel a free one on the turn if need be too.

By betting the flop here we are going to take the pot down a lot of the time and opponents actions are going to put their hand face up allowing us to bluff/valuebet more effectively or pass when we are behind.

coach me pls

[GreekStein]

I bet the flop because I've got a draw and one blocker to the nuts on a board where we've already said we don't think the reraiser hits this very often and I don't think the BB is going to bluff us often here with stack sizes as they are and being OOP.

I'm looking to take it down now as I don't want it to check round and have to pass to a bet on the turn even though technically our hand has improved with the Q. If we do get flatted we are likely to be able to peel a free one on the turn if need be too.

By betting the flop here we are going to take the pot down a lot of the time and opponents actions are going to put their hand face up allowing us to bluff/valuebet more effectively or pass when we are behind.

coach me pls

Taking the piss? I can never tell on the interwebz

[boldie]

I bet the flop because I've got a draw and one blocker to the nuts on a board where we've already said we don't think the reraiser hits this very often and I don't think the BB is going to bluff us often here with stack sizes as they are and being OOP.

I'm looking to take it down now as I don't want it to check round and have to pass to a bet on the turn even though technically our hand has improved with the Q. If we do get flatted we are likely to be able to peel a free one on the turn if need be too.

By betting the flop here we are going to take the pot down a lot of the time and opponents actions are going to put their hand face up allowing us to bluff/valuebet more effectively or pass when we are behind.

coach me pls

Taking the piss? I can never tell on the interwebz

Surely he 's not taking the piss...taking the piss would be you asking for fashion advise from young Mr Martin.