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« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2009, 12:25:46 PM »

Didn't play on Thursday, and just one session yesterday. It went well, but perhaps missed an opportunity to have an awesome session as things were going my way more often than average.

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« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2009, 04:37:27 PM »



Ran so bad on final tables yesterday; bubbling and shallow cashing whenever I got there. Usually by getting undersetted. 90 mans went gross as well, no finals in 19 games.

Winrate wise, I guess it's put me more on track with what you'd expect. ROI is at 16% now, so actually potentially a little below expectation now, but won't let this downswing get me down.


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« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2009, 05:58:40 PM »

Ugh

Good luck in the next session. Run better hopefully.

Which do you prefer 90 or 45?
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« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2009, 08:02:10 PM »

ul for last session James.

When running that badly maybe try not to play as many games, 'tomorrow is another day' and all that...
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« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2009, 05:06:53 PM »

I'm afraid no reprieve to the sickness. I am noticably running super bad. I really don't remember such a sustained period of not being able to win an all-in showdown. Does anyone know of any software that can analyze luck for these kind of tournaments? It seems the luck adjusted winnings doesn't work on Hold 'em Manager for these. It would be reassuring to see some stats that say I'm running super bad.

All I can say is I think I'm playing well. I know what you're saying Greeky, maybe I could have cut my sessions a bit short, but I was trying to play as much as I could over the weekend cos I think there's more donks at that time. If I'd felt I was playing worse I would have stopped, but as far as I'm aware I'm playing as well as I did the first seven days. Although obviously recent results give me doubts that I've gotten complacent or something. Even so, there's no way I'm a -66% ROI player, and that's how I've run the last 2 days.

I might have a break to clear my head from this. It's a pretty sick downswing to endure.

Tank, I'm not sure which one I prefer, 45/90. I played only 45s yesterday, because that's what I had been doing better in overall so far. 45s have a slower structure, but 90 mans you're more deep early so that's perhaps better for getting chips off the donks in good spots before they bust.

Would anybody mind if I include PokerStars $25+2 45 man tournaments in this proposal? I'm going to assume that's cool unless any investors specifically say it's not. Just because it's so in the realms of the proposal. Obviously I wouldn't take this line asking if I could play $500 Omaha Hi-Lo Super Turbo Heads Ups or something!

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« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2009, 06:16:36 PM »

Just look at the cEV thing in HEM will give you an idea of how bad you are running, it is in the list of options of things you can have displayed.
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« Reply #66 on: July 06, 2009, 08:14:57 PM »

Well, I'm no longer arguing whether you're in a proper downswing or not. You're officially running shitty.

I know exactly how you feel because I've been in a fair few similar spots this year. Great big downswings, 1,000+ game breakeven stretches, (which is an awful lot when you only play 5 regular speed comps at a time)

Got to the point where I hit a complete wall with the STTs so I looked at trying different things such as heads up and MTT SNGs. Eventually decided to move to the 45 mans on Full Tilt. They really are good games imo.


Regarding shorter sessions. I don't think this is necessarily a problem. 50 games or whatever the Saturday one was, given that you have a 5 minute break every hour, doesn't sound like too big a session for a full time player such as yourself.
 
I used to have the problem with my sessions that the losing ones would be longer and winning sessions would be shorter, but I think this has more to do with the temptation to end a winning session prematurely than being a degen
and trying to plug on regardless and break even before bedtime. (Which I reckon I don't do)
Maybe you're going through something similar. Deciding upon a session length before it's starts is the way to go imo.


Regarding the confidence thing, totally been there. I'm a bit skeptical about all-in luck analyzers though. They never tell the whole story.

Maybe posting a few bustout hands for the likes on Longy to pick over and offer suggestions. A lot of the MTT specialists could probably have something relevant to say too and there are plenty of them on blonde.


My game is far from perfect, so I don't like to comment on other people's in any kind of patronizing way. Bearing in mind I'm a nit, you would probably get much more top 3 finishes than me over thousands of games.
But to try and be helpful I'll point out one hand where I was a non participant at the table and it raised my eyebrow. My recall may be a little fuzzy.

At 40/80 the blinds were I think, there was one limper and you limped behind in either the CO or BTN with K9s (spades). Your stack was something between 1k and 2k.

A 9 high flop with one spade was checked to you by 3 players.
You bet, got check raised by one of the blinds and you went all-in.
 
The flop play was probably fine, but I just don't see the value in playing that hand pre.
 
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« Reply #67 on: July 06, 2009, 11:19:59 PM »

Thanks for that post tank.

"but I think this has more to do with the temptation to end a winning session prematurely"

^^This is true of me I think. I play the volume I should be putting in anyway in a losing session, but earlier in the week if I was in a spots where I was at a few final tables at a time and thought "this is a good place to end the session"

The hand you speak of, I occasionally overlimp if I have position on a couple of limpers in the early levels if I have them pegged as bad players and I have suited connectors or hands like that. I've been playing fairly passive in the first couple of levels, then I start to get aggro as the blinds go up to like 50/100. I thought this strategy was working nicely but perhaps I need to analyse this.

Can't do anything about the flop against a fishy player (stats and sharkscope based). But can see why you this hand makes it look like I'm spewing. But bear in mind this is one hand out of thousands, and this is one of my worst busts that I recall.

***** Hand History for Game 13222109267 ***** (Full Tilt)
$6000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, July 05, 07:34:02 ET 2009
Table 24  2 Sit  Go (98003182) Table 3 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: RIICKERD ( $1650.00 USD )
Seat 2: rudyard ( $1180.00 USD )
Seat 3: bjbama ( $1470.00 USD )
Seat 4: UNCGPoker ( $1175.00 USD )
Seat 5: Fido7Dido ( $1860.00 USD )
Seat 6: spin_48 ( $3245.00 USD )
Seat 7: GilbertM24 ( $1760.00 USD )
Seat 8: the_nutz03 ( $940.00 USD )
Seat 9: dread11 ( $2065.00 USD )
the_nutz03 posts small blind [$30.00 USD].
dread11 posts big blind [$60.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Fido7Dido [   ]
RIICKERD folds
rudyard folds
bjbama calls [$60.00 USD]
UNCGPoker folds
Fido7Dido calls [$60.00 USD]
spin_48 folds
GilbertM24 calls [$60.00 USD]
the_nutz03 calls [$30.00 USD]
dread11 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ three diamonds, , ]
the_nutz03 checks
dread11 checks
bjbama checks
Fido7Dido bets [$240.00 USD]
GilbertM24 raises [$480.00 USD]
the_nutz03 folds
dread11 folds
bjbama folds
Fido7Dido raises [$1560.00 USD]
GilbertM24 calls [$1220.00 USD]
Fido7Dido shows [, ]
GilbertM24 shows [, ]
Fido7Dido wins $100.00 USD
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
GilbertM24 wins $3700.00 USD from main pot


Is there any way to filter bust hands on HEM?
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« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2009, 11:54:46 PM »

Dunno about filtering bust out hands. Maybe if you filtered for a blind level and clicked to sort by the amount of chips lost you'd see a bunch of bustout hands.

What I do is have notepad or something open while I'm playing, and as I play a hand, bustout or w/ever, if I think it warrants later analysis I click on the buttons at the top of the sidebar thing to copy it and then I just CTRL+V it into notepad (and tap enter a couple of times to open a new line ready for the next one)

Once a week I have a look at all the hands I saved and decide that I am a tard. Smiley
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« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2009, 12:43:52 PM »

I'm sorry guys, I want to pull out of this thing early. I hope you don't consider it a grim, and obviously if I'd lost money I would play my way out of the hole and not just quit. But the whole reason I did this was for motivation and stuff, and I'm not enjoying the pressure this downswing is putting me under. Not that it's you guys putting me under it, it's me putting it under myself. I know it's just a bad downswing, and things would inevitably turn good, but there's other things such as the lack of games I can play per hour. I underestimated how long this would take as I've only managed 6 games an hour so far and I was managing 15 on pokerstars before I did this.

If I set something up like this again, all you guys will be reserved a slice should you want to take it.

I won't include the 10 straight matches I lost on the $27s on pokerstars yesterday cos that wasn't in the initial proposal anyway.

I hope you all understand, and I apologise for this whole mess. It's made me feel rather stupid tbh.

I'll ship the monies back to where you sent them from...

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« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2009, 12:47:07 PM »

Understand your decision mate though we all understand the variance and are happy to hold on if you want to.

Having said that I'm sure it's not a rash decision. Let me know for any future staking things - I'm definitely in.

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« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2009, 12:50:48 PM »

Understand your decision mate though we all understand the variance and are happy to hold on if you want to.

Having said that I'm sure it's not a rash decision. Let me know for any future staking things - I'm definitely in.

Bank xfer s'il vous plait

Thanks mate appreciate that.

I'm just a bit worried I'm gonna donk everyone's money. I think I'm gonna move over to stars, drop stakes, and see if this is a viable prospect for me. If I can come back and show you guys some good long term stats, I might do something like this again then.

If not I should just go back to heads ups really. Dunno why I'm so reluctant to do that!
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« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2009, 12:51:53 PM »

Dunno why I'm so reluctant to do that!

Because easy money is too easy and you're a poker player. that would be too simple
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« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2009, 01:06:38 PM »

It would only be a grim if you didn't ship the money! Wink

I can't complain, there is no point in you playing if you're not happy in the games - you wouldn't be playing your best.
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« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2009, 01:15:17 PM »

Cheers man.

Only Eck might consider me a grimmer then, have shipped to everyone else!
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