Hand from Venetian $550 tourney,done tikay styleeeeeeeeeee

[mondatoo]

Ok so asked by celtic to put this up as little bit interested in how it played out.

So we are going along quite well with around 54k and have been at a new table between 30mins-1hr table pretty tight one guy has around 80k stack and has been most aggro at the table but seems to be pretty decent.

Blinds 500/1000 ra100, we're in the BB with A2dd ep 80k stack guy opens to 2400 gets 4 callers sb folds

So 1st part is what's your play ?

[MC]

Call

[Graham C]

I think I'd limp here too.  With this many people in the hand, I'm looking to hit big though.

[GreekStein]

call is fine

[pokerfan]

Shove obv

[AlexMartin]

3b to 5800, jam over a 4b.

[Chompy]

You ain't knocking four off in one of these. Wouldn't normally but in a DS I limp too imo

[dousche]

minraise

[daviebhoy]

minraise

The 3-bet is interesting here. I don't think you get 4bet very often.

Aggro player is OOP and has 4 people to act behind him, if he is opening a lot of pots in EP then this might get through. I'd prefer to make it 12.5-15k tho. I don't like the min raise at all. You are getting called by 5 players most of the time.

If other players are tight then the c-bet looks good on a lot of flops if we get this heads up. If aggro guy calls then we probably get this multi-way either stack someone or give up our hand quite easily.

Standard play is to call. But, the described table dynamics might suit making a move. Difficult to know without more information on how tight the other players are and how loose aggro guy is in EP. Then there is your image....

[GreekStein]

minraise

The 3-bet is interesting here. I don't think you get 4bet very often.

Aggro player is OOP and has 4 people to act behind him, if he is opening a lot of pots in EP then this might get through. I'd prefer to make it 12.5-15k tho. I don't like the min raise at all. You are getting called by 5 players most of the time.

If other players are tight then the c-bet looks good on a lot of flops if we get this heads up. If aggro guy calls then we probably get this multi-way either stack someone or give up our hand quite easily.

Standard play is to call. But, the described table dynamics might suit making a move. Difficult to know without more information on how tight the other players are and how loose aggro guy is in EP. Then there is your image....

Disagree. Think this is one instance where a decent player is likely to 4 bet you real light. Looks like a great spot for you to be squeezing and he can't be worried about 4 flatters behind...it looks like theirs is just dead money in the pot.

Btw the minraise comment was a joke.

[mondatoo]

Other players haven't been that tight just hardly 3 betting,mostly limping,aggro guy hasn't been crazy just possibly 3 betting light a bit as has done so a few times without showdown.My own image is pretty tight.

[daviebhoy]

Disagree. Think this is one instance where a decent player is likely to 4 bet you real light. Looks like a great spot for you to be squeezing and he can't be worried about 4 flatters behind...it looks like theirs is just dead money in the pot.

Btw the minraise comment was a joke.

I like Alex's line even more now to induce the 4-bet. If we put in a decent raise tho :

1. We don't have any problem jamming his 4-bet when that happens,
2. He folds and so do the other guys who don't call 3-bets
3. Someone calls and we can c-bet most flops when it gets heads up
4. We can check/raise all-in a lot of flops when it is multi-way or we may even hit our hand.

[doubleup]

Disagree. Think this is one instance where a decent player is likely to 4 bet you real light. Looks like a great spot for you to be squeezing and he can't be worried about 4 flatters behind...it looks like theirs is just dead money in the pot.

Btw the minraise comment was a joke.

I like Alex's line even more now to induce the 4-bet. If we put in a decent raise tho :

1. We don't have any problem jamming his 4-bet when that happens,
2. He folds and so do the other guys who don't call 3-bets
3. Someone calls and we can c-bet most flops when it gets heads up
4. We can check/raise all-in a lot of flops when it is multi-way or we may even hit our hand.

I take it that you like this plan with 72o as well?

[MANTIS01]

call and see if some diamonds come

[NoflopsHomer]

I wouldn't call to hit diamonds, but definitely to try and hit some deuces.