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« Reply #105 on: July 02, 2009, 12:43:57 PM »

Mantis.

I don't know what to say.
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« Reply #106 on: July 02, 2009, 12:58:37 PM »

Middy were you bored?
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« Reply #107 on: July 02, 2009, 01:16:35 PM »

Internet poker players confuse me. Look how in depth that post is regarding the complexity of this situation. You guys take extensive notes about players, and use all the poker resource tools available to track their stats and playing tendencies. Then you produce complex equations which allow you to arrive at calling %’s to 3 decimal places. That is impressive. And it clearly gives most of you guys an edge in any random poker game you play. But when you sit down at that random live poker game you make a decision to push your whole stack based on some monies in the pot and a vague guess about unknown villains, what cards they have, and what they will do. I don’t get that. Complex theories to all Americans fold pair theories.

I agree with daviebhoy that we should mix things up. But this isn’t to build our overall stats that make up our Sharkscope ratings, it’s the first play we choose at this table. That’s a pretty significant thing to consider imo.


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« Reply #108 on: July 02, 2009, 01:17:16 PM »

Middy were you bored?

It would be good if he was bored more often.
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« Reply #109 on: July 02, 2009, 01:23:06 PM »

Middy were you bored?

It would be good if he was bored more often.

tru dat
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« Reply #110 on: July 02, 2009, 01:25:54 PM »

taking a smaller ev play to set up a even bigger ev play further down the line is always an argument in lots of forums and i guess it all depends on how much play is in the tourney.  with the stack sizes and having a table of unknowns i often think jamming shudnt be that bad but in my experiance the fourth limper always calls with somet like aj or 88 then im crushed and think i could of found a better spot. im far to aggro in these spots against unknowns and i think its deffo not been plus ev in my experiance
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« Reply #111 on: July 02, 2009, 01:39:07 PM »

taking a smaller ev play to set up a even bigger ev play further down the line is always an argument in lots of forums and i guess it all depends on how much play is in the tourney.  with the stack sizes and having a table of unknowns i often think jamming shudnt be that bad but in my experiance the fourth limper always calls with somet like aj or 88 then im crushed and think i could of found a better spot. im far to aggro in these spots against unknowns and i think its deffo not been plus ev in my experiance

4th limper should never be calling - its the 1st guy u gotta worry about. 4th limper comes in with the hands you describe to 'see a flop'. he is never the guy to be worried about because he iso's the limpers if he has a hand
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« Reply #112 on: July 02, 2009, 01:47:28 PM »

i know u shudnt be worried but im sayin from my experiance and me with my aggro image at the table. annette15 style i always get called by the 4th limper . it dont work like the domino affect when u have a aggro image its more like they cant call u quick enough. guess it all comes down to ya table image and mine isnt super solid so when these spots represent them selfs i find my self thinking why oh why do they set me up akipper its like they know there limping to snap the aggro kid in the blinds off. all a learning curve i guess.
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« Reply #113 on: July 02, 2009, 02:24:45 PM »

With an LAG image the raise here is horrible.

In this specific situation being discussed our image is tight. Imo if we continue to play tight then we are not exploiting our good image. I understand the argument being put forward by Mantis and it is a very standard line and there isn't anything wrong with peeling and hoping to see a flop. Sometimes you need to stray a little bit from the standard line. Its all about making the wrong move at the right time and all that...
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« Reply #114 on: July 02, 2009, 02:54:17 PM »

i agrea but u gotta donk around in these spots from time to time to see how much u can get away with. super solid image shud be a deffo squeeze i guess on paper.  lol
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