Do I need to lose this much on this hand?

[Rod]

I am bit unhappy with how I have played a few hands lately so thought I would post them on here and get some feedback. This is a hand from ipoker. Keritane my opponent in the hand was playing 62/16/5.5. Only had 42 hands on them though.

My thoughts on the hand were I have to raise preflop. I didn't really notice that the guy had limped UTG as such as he was limping in so often anyway. The call did not really surprise me either as I expected him to call. There is one overcard on the flop and he bets into it. Can I fold here? He could have a queen. Is it better to raise to find out where I am? (I really hate doing that by the way). I call as I basically think he will probably call a raise with a queen and I probably force him to fold anything that I am beating. Turn card is pretty much a blank. He makes the same bet on the turn as on the flop so I really feel I have to call again. Is this wrong? Again I can't see the river changes anything. He bets $3 into a pot of $13 giving me just over 5/1 to call. Am I good often enough here to make this call. I obviously convince myself I am and call. The fact he has bet three streets makes me think this might be wrong. Not sure though in the same situation again I probably call $3 again. Wrong?

GAME #1696932501: Texas Hold'em NL $0.25/$0.50 2009-06-27 14:12:22
Table "TURBO" Vernon
Seat 1: turbocroc ($55.52 in chips)
Seat 3: Rodder5 ($43.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: AsrCri ($57.85 in chips)
Seat 6: bboru77 ($50.00 in chips)
Seat 8: Keritane ($16.57 in chips)
Seat 10: Albertishko ($50.88 in chips)
AsrCri: Post SB $0.25
bboru77: Post BB $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rodder5 [ ]
Keritane: Call $0.50
Albertishko: Fold
turbocroc: Fold
Rodder5: Raise (NF) $2.50
AsrCri: Fold
bboru77: Fold
Keritane: Call $2.00
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Keritane: Bet $2.00
Rodder5: Call $2.00
*** TURN *** []
Keritane: Bet $2.00
Rodder5: Call $2.00
*** RIVER *** []
Keritane: Bet $3.00
Rodder5: Call $3.00
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18.77 Rake $0.98
Keritane: Shows [SA ]
Keritane: wins $18.77

[MC]

Think you should be raising the flop here...

[Rod]

Cheers MC, and thanks for the comments on the other hands I posted as well. I might sound like a bit of a donk here but should I really be raising the flop? My thinking here is that I should only be raising if I think I am ahead? I do find out where I am better by taking this line (ie if he reraises then I know I am beat and fold). But raising seems to get the hands I beat to fold and the hands I lose too to call, please tell me if my logic is totally floored here. I could raise to $5 on the flop and if he raises or calls I am beat (probably the guy is quite loose and could call with worse than a queen - is this why I should raise?) so I would save myself $2 here but don't give him the chance to fire again on the turn or river if I am ahead?

[GreekStein]

I think you should have lost more.

Why are you 2.5xing pre?

[doubleup]

I think you should have lost more.

Why are you 2.5xing pre?

[  ] $2.50 @ 50nl = 2.5x

[GreekStein]

I think you should have lost more.

Why are you 2.5xing pre?

[  ] $2.50 @ 50nl = 2.5x

sigh. apologies.

[MC]

Cheers MC, and thanks for the comments on the other hands I posted as well. I might sound like a bit of a donk here but should I really be raising the flop? My thinking here is that I should only be raising if I think I am ahead? I do find out where I am better by taking this line (ie if he reraises then I know I am beat and fold). But raising seems to get the hands I beat to fold and the hands I lose too to call, please tell me if my logic is totally floored here. I could raise to $5 on the flop and if he raises or calls I am beat (probably the guy is quite loose and could call with worse than a queen - is this why I should raise?) so I would save myself $2 here but don't give him the chance to fire again on the turn or river if I am ahead?

You're raising to define where you're at, and there is a fair chance you are ahead. If a donk bet was strong more times than it was weak, then it wouldn't be called a donk bet.

If he stays in the hand once you've raised, you can pretty much shut down.

I don't see how you save money by calling. He bets $2, you raise to $7 on the flop, you lose $7. You lost $7 on the hand calling him down, and had he bet stronger you would have lost more because I think you have to call down on this hand if that's how you're gonna play it...

[Steve Swift]

Thanks for posting, a great tool to learn from.

Steve

[Steve Swift]

I think you should have lost more.

Why are you 2.5xing pre?

[  ] $2.50 @ 50nl = 2.5x

What have i read wrong, doesn't the question stane, coz u have just 2.5 x havent u ?

[gatso]

What have i read wrong, doesn't the question stane, coz u have just 2.5 x havent u ?

you might want to put that in english steve. I've read it 4 times and have no idea what you're asking

[Ismene]

I think you should have lost more.

Why are you 2.5xing pre?

[  ] $2.50 @ 50nl = 2.5x

What have i read wrong, doesn't the question stane, coz u have just 2.5 x havent u ?

0.5 x 5 = 2.5

[dousche]

I think you should have lost more.

Why are you 2.5xing pre?

[  ] $2.50 @ 50nl = 2.5x

What have i read wrong, doesn't the question stane, coz u have just 2.5 x havent u ?

0.5 x 5 = 2.5

he's raised to 2.5 DOLLARS. when greekfish says 2.5x he's talking about 2.5 big blinds, ie 1.25 dollars.

whats wrong with flatting the flop with the intention of calling a turn bet and no river bet? in the raise scenario you only put $7 in against hands you are behind to, flatting gets value when he double barrels and is behind you (PPs below jacks perhaps?). also, its a very dry board so free cards arent really an issue. of course you are opening yourself up to the chance of being bluffed off the river, but anyone who wants to 3-barrel you on such a dry board can have it.

i flirted with the idea of calling the donk bet and passing on the turn but i think villain mostly check-calls or check-raises with q's so flatting 2 bets hoping to see him flip 88 seems a reasonable line.

as played, given the great odds given by the small bets i can see how tempting it is to call the river bet, but i think that the weak bet on the turn would not be followed up by another on the river without a hand better than yours. its a tough pass i think, but a pass nonetheless