We play plo! i dont have a scooby doo!

[AlexMartin]

Ok so played some plo tonight and had interesting hand. 3/6 on ipoker. Villain 1 seems competent, iv been pretty nitty and we are 1100 effective against villain 1 and villain 2 has 500. Villain 2 is pretty dumb/bad.

Villain 1 opens utg, i call button w  , villain 2 flats from sb.

Flop    . Pot is 70 odd, villain 1 bets 45, villain 2 calls, we call (mistake#1?)

Turn is 10c. Villain 1 checks, villain 2 bets 200 or so, action on us. Best play is to?

[GreekStein]

Name of villain pls Alex, I play quite a lot on ipoker and know the regs of 3/6 quite well.

Edit: Don't think it matters too much who villain is, you have to repot the flop.

[Karabiner]

I like the flat on the flop in fact i would say that it's pretty much standard.

I'm probably just calling this turn bet too although it's starting to get a bit awkward now as we could be second-best but  folding does not really seem like an option and raising could prove rather reckless, tricky in the extreme imo.

[GreekStein]

I like the flat on the flop in fact i would say that it's pretty much standard.

I'm probably just calling this turn bet too although it's starting to get a bit awkward now as we could be second-best but  folding does not really seem like an option and raising could prove rather reckless, tricky in the extreme imo.

The complete opposite for me. I think flatting the flop is a big big mistake.

We want to get value from flush draws etc rather than giving cheap cards to opponents who are playing OOP. If the turn bricks we win a nice pot and if it doesn't its hard for them to bluff us because our hand can include flush draws etc too.

The way we've played it I hate life on the turn.

[EvilPie]

I always pot this on the flop especially 3 way. There's not many safe cards for us and if we do see a safe card we lose value as flush draws have no equity to get it in against us any more.

If we flat now then bet a blank turn we're not even getting action from sets because we've just told oppos what we've got.

Pot the flop and we get action from big flush draws and sets. Check and we only get action from hands that beat us.

If you pot and they pass no problem just wait for the next opportunity.

I really don't see the point slow playing the nuts in omaha especially 3 way. Someone always catches up and if they don't you don't get paid anyway.

[Karabiner]

But we are the button, if we just call the flop they are still in the dark and may well bet into us on a blank turn.

Obviously on this turn it's all gone a bit smelly and given us problems, but not all bad ones.

[riverdave]

Ok so played some plo tonight and had interesting hand. 3/6 on ipoker. Villain 1 seems competent, iv been pretty nitty and we are 1100 effective against villain 1 and villain 2 has 500. Villain 2 is pretty dumb/bad.

Villain 1 opens utg, i call button w  , villain 2 flats from sb.

Flop    . Pot is 70 odd, villain 1 bets 45, villain 2 calls, we call (mistake#1?)

Turn is 10c. Villain 1 checks, villain 2 bets 200 or so, action on us. Best play is to?

Alex your such a CHOO CHOO in PLO!!

Flop is certainly a mistake i really hate it. I'm repotting here 99.99% less than 200BB deep. I know the arguments people don't, you can end up getting it in splitting and being freerolled etc but imo you're not deep enough to worry about that and missing out on too much long term EV. In this situation you've also given yourself a disgusting decision never mind on the turn you need to have a plan for the river too.
If i've 0.01%'d it i'm throwing up and passing turn, hate to murder any more money in hands i've butchered already. There are several issues here are we thinking of calling cos we think our hand is good, are we calling to see what happens on river with regard to whether there is a bet again or if it pairs up/board changes. We and almost certainly someone else in the hand are really blocking pair ups and JJ is a possible hand for either anyway, we also have a reasonable chance that we've let q9 get there. We need a plan not only for the river what are we doing if Villain 1 now checks shoves when we flat? All extra reasons in my eye to complete the butchering of the hand and pass turn.

[EvilPie]

btw.

As played i now just curl up in to a ball and wonder why I slow played the nuts and could now well be drawing to the last remaining 10.

I'm not passing but I'm hating it. I just call now and pray for a showdown as cheap as possible but don't expect it for 1 second.

No point raising now because you're turning the hand in to a bluff. Passing just doesn't work for me either.

Tough spot mate. From my limited experience you're probably behind. If you make a house you could still be behind.

Looking forward to the rest of the hand.

[GreekStein]

btw.

As played i now just curl up in to a ball and wonder why I slow played the nuts and could now well be drawing to the last remaining 10.

I'm not passing but I'm hating it. I just call now and pray for a showdown as cheap as possible but don't expect it for 1 second.

No point raising now because you're turning the hand in to a bluff. Passing just doesn't work for me either.

Tough spot mate. From my limited experience you're probably behind. If you make a house you could still be behind.

Looking forward to the rest of the hand.

What happens when you flat and villain 1 check shoves

[EvilPie]

Just read Dave's post. You know what he's probably right.

Having butchered the hand why throw any more at it?

Just give it up and wait for a better opportunity. It's PLO, they will come sonner rather than later.

[EvilPie]

btw.

As played i now just curl up in to a ball and wonder why I slow played the nuts and could now well be drawing to the last remaining 10.

I'm not passing but I'm hating it. I just call now and pray for a showdown as cheap as possible but don't expect it for 1 second.

No point raising now because you're turning the hand in to a bluff. Passing just doesn't work for me either.

Tough spot mate. From my limited experience you're probably behind. If you make a house you could still be behind.

Looking forward to the rest of the hand.

What happens when you flat and villain 1 check shoves

I curl up in to an even tighter ball and have a little cry whilst timing out.

[boldie]

I dislike the flat pre..raise or get out of the way please.
I dislike the flat on the flop..very not nice at all...on the turn, yeah I reckon Dave is right...might as well just get out of the way now as the river should cost you plenty.

[Karabiner]

I dislike the flat pre..raise or get out of the way please.

So you are saying that the correct play here is to either three-bet or fold pre.

[paulhouk03]

I dislike the flat pre..raise or get out of the way please.

So you are saying that the correct play here is to either three-bet or fold pre.

tt98 isnt that good in omaha
i think flatting pre is fine

[Royal Flush]

I don't mind it, i get it in now though.