car accident - any advice?

[GreekStein]

people seem to be forgetting the inconvenience and time involved in getting estimates, being without a car while it is being repaired, getting lifts there and back, petrol etc. I think it's more than reasonable to charge for all that tbh. If you don't want to pay for it go through the insurance and let them sort it out, but you still prob have a near £250 excess to pay and you lose your no claims as well.

some muppet wrote my car off a while ago and I was happy with what he offered me not to go through insurance but I didn't realise just how much hassle it is to have to travel around looking for a new car when you don't have one to go in. if it happened again I would add on a grand to pay for a hire car for a couple of weeks


lol redic

lol happy to smash your door in and give you £50 to sort it

wrong side of bed?

[StuartHopkin]

When you caused the damage your opinion was that the damage was minor, and your offer was to pay for the repair of minor damage. However, if the car is worth £500 and the quote to repair it is £400 then it's not minor damage at all, that's like almost a complete right off. So check it out, you were the thoroughly decent and honourable neighbour here, not naive at all imo, just a stand up person, so you've got nothing to feel bad about. Yo neighbour on the other hand takes your offer to pay for a minor repair and abuses it by commissioning his mate to spend 80% of the car's value tarting it up without consulting you first. The neighbour can't just spend your money willy nilly without checking it's ok first. That's not decent. Get a couple of quotes from friendly garages as to what £'s you could expect to pay for this minor dent...then when your skanky neighbour comes calling show him your quote, pay him that amount, and tell him you're really really sorry that his friend is not really his friend at all.

trouble is there's now no evidence as to the extent of the damage. It didn't cross my mind to take a picture or anything. Neighbour is claiming door frame was buckled and needed repairing etc (it wasn't), but I can't now prove otherwise.

Claire, your offer was to pay for minor damage. If the damage was not minor your neighbour should be decent and consult with you first. That is the point. He can't use that offer to hold you to ransom. I remember this story about some guys who finished their meal at some dotty curry house and ordered 5 glasses of the restaurant's best brandy to finish. The brandy was like £200 a shot...so the final bill was well over a grand. The waiter has a moral obligation to inform the patrons of the hefty price imo, especially if the guys live next door.

WTF

If you order anything without knowing the price how can you complain?

Same really goes for what Claw did, she should have said Ill pay upto £100 to get it fixed or it needs to go throught the insurance.

Stu, if me and you were good neighbours and you offered to pay for a meal for my birthday I would treat your offer with decency. I would order a reasonable meal because that is in the spirit of the offer. If on the other hand I abs raped the menu and left you with a hefty bill I doubt you'd be pleased. If I then said "listen clown WTF you said you'd pay" you wouldn't see things that way. I haven't taken your offer in the spirit in which it was intended and me saying it's your fault you should have stipulated an amount doesn't really change that. Not if me and you want to be decent neighbours with one another anyway.

Lolz you obviously dont know me, if this happened I would probably stop you and say shit you have cheap taste, lets go here they have better wine.

What youve said though imo is pretty different to the brandy story no? These guys have probably thought 'hey were in a shit curry house, whats the worst that could happen, lets be balla' they got stung.' Would they have said it if they were in a posh restaurant, er no.

There is a difference between saying Ill have the 'finest........ and offering to take a neighbour out for dinner.

[StuartHopkin]

WTF

If you order anything without knowing the price how can you complain?

Are you serious? If you go into a pub do you always insist on seeing the displayed price list before ordering a drink the extra 10 minutes it takes is worth it just in case some xxxx is trying to xxxx you over!

Yes, if i order a pint of Guinness in a pub i expect it to be between £2-50 and £4-00

If I walk in somewhere and the guy says £12-80 please mate, I cant really argue can I?

I assumed the price would be the same as everywhere else.

The only person at fault is me, we all know what assuming does......

[StuartHopkin]

When you caused the damage your opinion was that the damage was minor, and your offer was to pay for the repair of minor damage. However, if the car is worth £500 and the quote to repair it is £400 then it's not minor damage at all, that's like almost a complete right off. So check it out, you were the thoroughly decent and honourable neighbour here, not naive at all imo, just a stand up person, so you've got nothing to feel bad about. Yo neighbour on the other hand takes your offer to pay for a minor repair and abuses it by commissioning his mate to spend 80% of the car's value tarting it up without consulting you first. The neighbour can't just spend your money willy nilly without checking it's ok first. That's not decent. Get a couple of quotes from friendly garages as to what £'s you could expect to pay for this minor dent...then when your skanky neighbour comes calling show him your quote, pay him that amount, and tell him you're really really sorry that his friend is not really his friend at all.

trouble is there's now no evidence as to the extent of the damage. It didn't cross my mind to take a picture or anything. Neighbour is claiming door frame was buckled and needed repairing etc (it wasn't), but I can't now prove otherwise.

Claire, your offer was to pay for minor damage. If the damage was not minor your neighbour should be decent and consult with you first. That is the point. He can't use that offer to hold you to ransom. I remember this story about some guys who finished their meal at some dotty curry house and ordered 5 glasses of the restaurant's best brandy to finish. The brandy was like £200 a shot...so the final bill was well over a grand. The waiter has a moral obligation to inform the patrons of the hefty price imo, especially if the guys live next door.

WTF

If you order anything without knowing the price how can you complain?

Same really goes for what Claw did, she should have said Ill pay upto £100 to get it fixed or it needs to go throught the insurance.

Stu, if me and you were good neighbours and you offered to pay for a meal for my birthday I would treat your offer with decency. I would order a reasonable meal because that is in the spirit of the offer. If on the other hand I abs raped the menu and left you with a hefty bill I doubt you'd be pleased. If I then said "listen clown WTF you said you'd pay" you wouldn't see things that way. I haven't taken your offer in the spirit in which it was intended and me saying it's your fault you should have stipulated an amount doesn't really change that. Not if me and you want to be decent neighbours with one another anyway.

WTF that's left field even for you.

Claire you broke it you pay it, simple as.

I still cant get how you can hit a stationary object!

If you don't get that point it must be common for you to take advantage of people. You see 90% of people wouldn't leave a note at all, lots of posters on here wouldn't leave a note, so 9 times out of 10 the guy doesn't get his car fixed at all. Yet Claire has shown some integrity by admitting it. I would appreciate that and show integrity in return by getting a genuine price. Instead it's clear the guy is wanting to make money out of Claire's honesty with his inflated garage bill grim. I mean, when Claire mentions claiming on the insurance his beef is he would've lavished as much money as possible tarting up his nail at some expensive garage if he knew that. Why doesn't he just want the dent fixed?

"you broke it you pay" means that you would instantly thumb out the 400 notes when your neighbour came calling. And that would make you a dick.

No, your naivety of leaving him a blank cheque makes you a dick.
(No offence Claw  )

[phatbhoy]

I crashed my car last Thursday, it was my fault but hadn't done a lot of damage to my car (their car spun twice and hit a lampost and bin) so when I collected it yesterday thinking BMW were just going to replace the bumper that had got bashed I was stunned to get a bill for £1650+VAT! Obv paid through my insurance but the charges were ridic, said they had to replace lights & internal fiittings, etc! I am pretty sure garages can be robbing bast**ds given the chance so maybe his mate screwed him over for the repair? £250 seems like a cracking deal considering you are not losing your no claims and not paying excess...

[Jon MW]

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The only person at fault is me, we all know what assuming does......

It makes an ass out of  u and ming ?  

[Jon MW]

I crashed my car last Thursday, it was my fault but hadn't done a lot of damage to my car (their car spun twice and hit a lampost and bin) so when I collected it yesterday thinking BMW were just going to replace the bumper that had got bashed I was stunned to get a bill for £1650+VAT! Obv paid through my insurance but the charges were ridic, said they had to replace lights & internal fiittings, etc! I am pretty sure garages can be robbing bast**ds given the chance so maybe his mate screwed him over for the repair? £250 seems like a cracking deal considering you are not losing your no claims and not paying excess...

Bit of difference between spinning a BMW and crashing into a lampost and dinging a door on an old banger don't you think?

[phatbhoy]

I honestly had no damage to my bumper I was stationary turning right onto a main road and a boy racer flew down the road and lightly caught my car, his car spun not mine but honestly they listed 12 repairs when the car was in perfect condition, lights n all! Old bangers still cost money to be fixed but my point was maybe the garage was screwing him?

[Graham C]

Yes, if i order a pint of Guinness in a pub i expect it to be between £2-50 and £4-00

If I walk in somewhere and the guy says £12-80 please mate, I cant really argue can I?

I was at the O2 in the VIP bar and it cost me about £20 for 3 drinks.

[ X ] I argued/complained

[  ] It went well

[sovietsong]

Personally I think you should pay the £250.  Somebody bumped my car and left the details, it was all sorted through the insurance but it was still a load of hassle.  If he has had you away by getting a mate to do the work then so be it, however just because he has a shit car doesnt mean the work will cost less.  I mean he's not going to go into the garage and say 'i know my cars a heap of shit, knock the dent out with that rusty hammer and i will ask the kind lady for £50'.  If the work was done properly it is expensive (mine cost the insurance company about £1k + the hirecar), and even if it wasnt, you left a note saying you would pay.  

I think you did the right thing leaving the note, big mistake saying you'd pay for the damage without quotes first.

[StuartHopkin]

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The only person at fault is me, we all know what assuming does......

It makes an ass out of  u and ming ?  

nice work jon

[StuartHopkin]

Yes, if i order a pint of Guinness in a pub i expect it to be between £2-50 and £4-00

If I walk in somewhere and the guy says £12-80 please mate, I cant really argue can I?

I was at the O2 in the VIP bar and it cost me about £20 for 3 drinks.

[ X ] I argued/complained

[  ] It went well

[  ] You asked the price before you ordered
[X] If you thought about it you knew it was coming
[  ] It was their fault

[Graham C]

sigh, was in no condition to think

[StuartHopkin]

sigh, was in no condition to think

lol proves the point even more

gg graham!

the big question is though, what had u been to see? that will decide whether the round was acceptable or not

[gatso]

Yes, if i order a pint of Guinness in a pub i expect it to be between £2-50 and £4-00

If I walk in somewhere and the guy says £12-80 please mate, I cant really argue can I?

I was at the O2 in the VIP bar and it cost me about £20 for 3 drinks.

[ X ] I argued/complained

[  ] It went well

you obviously don't get out in london much

I would've been keeping my mouth shut and trying to sneak away before they noticed they'd undercharged me