Steve Gerrard

[The Baron]

Just hope the next guy he squares up to ove 'mither' defends himself first.

Bawbag coward as a player - dangerous tackles when the victim's not ready for it, it seems he's the same as a person. Talent is no excuse for being a prick.

Coward is the last word I'd use for Gerrard on the pitch. He's cut the dangerous tackles out of his game in recent years (unlike other greats like Souness or Keane who played the same way throughout their careers) although he did see red a little too often in his youth.

And I think he got away with it because generally he isn't a prick, this incident aside he's a nice guy, a good example to kids on and off the pitch (again, this incident aside) and generally known to be a family man who gets on with everyone and commands the respects of present and former peers. His character as a person is more than reputable.

Agree with you 100% Baron. Rod, bawbag coward LMAO... Do you have a clue?

Aye, just because he's 'cut out the over the top tackles' does not excuse his attempts to put other proffessionals out of the game. Never showed remorse for them either AFAICR.

Getting all your mates to plead guilty when you're the one who punched the bloke strikes me as a bawbag coward as well.

Like I say I hope the next guy defends himself first instead. Bet he gets done though.

He's not done a Roy Keane and said he's ever meant to injure someone - as I say he's seen red on the field a few times but which great midfielder in the EPL hasn't when it's not going their way? He's texted Kevin Nolan, Patrick Vieira and Alan Shearer after on the field incidents - I wouldn't like to say for sure he hasn't shown remorse for other tackles, do any of us know what goes on behind closed doors or who texts or rings who? And how does anyone know what he "got his mates to do" in this case? In short, it's all speculation really.

He's been a right plank and was lucky to get away with what he did but some of the above sounds like pure guesswork for me.

I'd rather go with the what is known about him when it comes to his character.

[nirvana]

Just hope the next guy he squares up to ove 'mither' defends himself first.

Bawbag coward as a player - dangerous tackles when the victim's not ready for it, it seems he's the same as a person. Talent is no excuse for being a prick.

Coward is the last word I'd use for Gerrard on the pitch. He's cut the dangerous tackles out of his game in recent years (unlike other greats like Souness or Keane who played the same way throughout their careers) although he did see red a little too often in his youth.

And I think he got away with it because generally he isn't a prick, this incident aside he's a nice guy, a good example to kids on and off the pitch (again, this incident aside) and generally known to be a family man who gets on with everyone and commands the respects of present and former peers. His character as a person is more than reputable.

Agree with you 100% Baron. Rod, bawbag coward LMAO... Do you have a clue?

Aye, just because he's 'cut out the over the top tackles' does not excuse his attempts to put other proffessionals out of the game. Never showed remorse for them either AFAICR.

Getting all your mates to plead guilty when you're the one who punched the bloke strikes me as a bawbag coward as well.

Like I say I hope the next guy defends himself first instead. Bet he gets done though.

He's not done a Roy Keane and said he's ever meant to injure someone - as I say he's seen red on the field a few times but which great midfielder in the EPL hasn't when it's not going their way? He's texted Kevin Nolan, Patrick Vieira and Alan Shearer after on the field incidents - I wouldn't like to say for sure he hasn't shown remorse for other tackles, do any of us know what goes on behind closed doors or who texts or rings who? And how does anyone know what he "got his mates to do" in this case? In short, it's all speculation really.

He's been a right plank and was lucky to get away with what he did but some of the above sounds like pure guesswork for me.

I'd rather go with the what is known about him when it comes to his character.

OK, what is known, is that his mate elbowed a bloke and rather than choose to step back a couple of feet and let his mates stand in the way of him and the guy who he had to 'self defend' himself from he takes a few cheap shots. What does that say about his character ?

[The Baron]

Just hope the next guy he squares up to ove 'mither' defends himself first.

Bawbag coward as a player - dangerous tackles when the victim's not ready for it, it seems he's the same as a person. Talent is no excuse for being a prick.

Coward is the last word I'd use for Gerrard on the pitch. He's cut the dangerous tackles out of his game in recent years (unlike other greats like Souness or Keane who played the same way throughout their careers) although he did see red a little too often in his youth.

And I think he got away with it because generally he isn't a prick, this incident aside he's a nice guy, a good example to kids on and off the pitch (again, this incident aside) and generally known to be a family man who gets on with everyone and commands the respects of present and former peers. His character as a person is more than reputable.

Agree with you 100% Baron. Rod, bawbag coward LMAO... Do you have a clue?

Aye, just because he's 'cut out the over the top tackles' does not excuse his attempts to put other proffessionals out of the game. Never showed remorse for them either AFAICR.

Getting all your mates to plead guilty when you're the one who punched the bloke strikes me as a bawbag coward as well.

Like I say I hope the next guy defends himself first instead. Bet he gets done though.

He's not done a Roy Keane and said he's ever meant to injure someone - as I say he's seen red on the field a few times but which great midfielder in the EPL hasn't when it's not going their way? He's texted Kevin Nolan, Patrick Vieira and Alan Shearer after on the field incidents - I wouldn't like to say for sure he hasn't shown remorse for other tackles, do any of us know what goes on behind closed doors or who texts or rings who? And how does anyone know what he "got his mates to do" in this case? In short, it's all speculation really.

He's been a right plank and was lucky to get away with what he did but some of the above sounds like pure guesswork for me.

I'd rather go with the what is known about him when it comes to his character.

OK, what is known, is that his mate elbowed a bloke and rather than choose to step back a couple of feet and let his mates stand in the way of him and the guy who he had to 'self defend' himself from he takes a few cheap shots. What does that say about his character ?

"Cheap shots" is an opinion of yours not a fact.

As previously mentioned in this thread he successfully convinced a jury that he did not see the elbow (the video is not conclusive on this point).

Personally I don't believe it, and I am inclined to agree with you that they were cheap shots, and even if I did believe him he still should have backed off as the guy came for him, his mates would have made sure he didn't have to get involved. But what you or I believe is irrelevant.

A jury has decided he's not guilty, largely based on his character. I agree with your speculation, but it IS speculation.

[nirvana]

Just cause a jury didn't find him guilty of a speciific offence doesn't change the fact that the man is a coward.

Many cowardly cheap shots go unpunished/don't go to court - it doesn't change what they are

I don't think Gerrard is the worse man in the world, can't think of him as major threat to society, he dealt with a situation in the wrong way imo. I'm sure he didn't stop to think if he was acting like a coward so we can all forgive that I'm sure. Who hasn't done something on the spur to regret it later ?

The bit that really sticks in my craw is that he compounds his cowardliness in the first instance (very forgiveable) by an unwillingness to hold his hands up, it's a fair cop, express some regret and take a minor punishment like a man.

The fact that, imo, he has no integrity, is a more serious character flaw than being the undoubted hard man he is.

[The Baron]

Just cause a jury didn't find him guilty of a speciific offence doesn't change the fact that the man is a coward.

Many cowardly cheap shots go unpunished/don't go to court - it doesn't change what they are

Again this is opinion.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

[smileriraq]

I think whats worse is the abuse the guy who got hit has endured by the liverpool fans

Im a nice guy and have proven record of good character but swap me for steven gerrard in that picture and im going to get the book thrown at me

[TheChipPrince]

John Terry has done far, far worse, he's battered a bouncer, threated staff at nightclubs with their life, been known to have paid average Joe's money to beat up and steal the cameras of papparazzi, he's just not been daft enough to be caught on CCTV. (Only home made video doing some bird up the a$$! lol)

PM link please.