Wembley Cup....

[mckelinho]

[ x ] i am the biggest biter going when it comes to these issues

[  ] celtic will make the group stages

Wouldn't be the biggest disaster to miss out on the CL, neither Celtic or Rangers are equipped for this tourney. The Europa League would at least have us playing teams of our own level.

Are you kidding on?? Its £10 million revenue for just getting there regardless of the results. I'll happily admit neither can do anything in the CL but the prestiage and money is a must

[sweet potata!]

[  ] Thought it was much of an achievement, or tournament (hence the reserves comment  )
[X] Knew it was designed by a 13 year old, wd Longy 
[X] Funny to see the reserves & kids beat how many millions? worth of players from the all-conquering EPL.
[  ] Rangers and Celtic are in a different tournament in Europe.
[X] Rangers know a lot more about empty trophy cabinets in the last few years boys, or did you go on strike in 2006 & 2007?
[  ] Didn't expect sniping.
[X] Just enjoyed a wee wind up for Kev & Nem.

Don't be bitter Rod , the 'EPL'  is where it's at, you know you wish Celtic could get into it.I don't think it was too funny to see Celtic Kids beat Spurs.It was just a Friendly FFS.

[Rod Paradise]

[ x ] i am the biggest biter going when it comes to these issues

[  ] celtic will make the group stages

Wouldn't be the biggest disaster to miss out on the CL, neither Celtic or Rangers are equipped for this tourney. The Europa League would at least have us playing teams of our own level.

Are you kidding on?? Its £10 million revenue for just getting there regardless of the results. I'll happily admit neither can do anything in the CL but the prestiage and money is a must

ORLY?

Go on then - explain the £10m.....

Then explain why a potentially longer run in the Europa League isn't worth as much.....

TBH the only reason apart from prestige we'd want to qualify for the CL this season is to f*** up the payouts for the CL for Rangers.

[Rod Paradise]

[  ] Thought it was much of an achievement, or tournament (hence the reserves comment  )
[X] Knew it was designed by a 13 year old, wd Longy 
[X] Funny to see the reserves & kids beat how many millions? worth of players from the all-conquering EPL.
[  ] Rangers and Celtic are in a different tournament in Europe.
[X] Rangers know a lot more about empty trophy cabinets in the last few years boys, or did you go on strike in 2006 & 2007?
[  ] Didn't expect sniping.
[X] Just enjoyed a wee wind up for Kev & Nem.

Don't be bitter Rod , the 'EPL'  is where it's at, you know you wish Celtic could get into it.I don't think it was too funny to see Celtic Kids beat Spurs.It was just a Friendly FFS.

  If I say sorry for thinking Gerrard's a coward for not taking his punishment will you get a sense of humour? OK, I'm sorry he's a coward.

Do I want Celtic in the EPL, probably yes from a financial point of view, but I'd have deep misgivings about it as well. Ideally a European League will remove that financial reason & we wouldn't need to.

[sweet potata!]

[  ] Thought it was much of an achievement, or tournament (hence the reserves comment  )
[X] Knew it was designed by a 13 year old, wd Longy 
[X] Funny to see the reserves & kids beat how many millions? worth of players from the all-conquering EPL.
[  ] Rangers and Celtic are in a different tournament in Europe.
[X] Rangers know a lot more about empty trophy cabinets in the last few years boys, or did you go on strike in 2006 & 2007?
[  ] Didn't expect sniping.
[X] Just enjoyed a wee wind up for Kev & Nem.

Don't be bitter Rod , the 'EPL'  is where it's at, you know you wish Celtic could get into it.I don't think it was too funny to see Celtic Kids beat Spurs.It was just a Friendly FFS.

  If I say sorry for thinking Gerrard's a coward for not taking his punishment will you get a sense of humour? OK, I'm sorry he's a coward.

Do I want Celtic in the EPL, probably yes from a financial point of view, but I'd have deep misgivings about it as well. Ideally a European League will remove that financial reason & we wouldn't need to.

Nothing to do with Stevie G at all, you just seem to have an unhealthy jealousy towards all things Premier League. Build a bridge and all that.

Lol you only want in from a financial point of view? Surely you would like  it from a competitive point of view too?  What was the Kev said before about a coinflip league?

[Rod Paradise]

Nothing to do with Stevie G at all, you just seem to have an unhealthy jealousy towards all things Premier League. Build a bridge and all that.

Lol you only want in from a financial point of view? Surely you would like  it from a competitive point of view too?  What was the Kev said before about a coinflip league?

Jealous? Of the money, yes. Of the desperate desire led by the press to overinflate the influence and stature of the league, not really. It's in the top2 in Europe IMO, and good luck to them, but the constant put downs from people with little or no clue gets wearing.

I.E. coinflip league.... wee question for you - since the SPL started 2 teams have won it, in the same time how many have won the English League? Or to put it in another way - in Scotland from a 12 team league 2 have won it, 16.7%, the %age of the 20 team league in England is?

Big clue - it's not going to support your argument.......

[gatso]

I.E. coinflip league.... wee question for you - since the SPL started 2 teams have won it, in the same time how many have won the English League? Or to put it in another way - in Scotland from a 12 team league 2 have won it, 16.7%, the %age of the 20 team league in England is?

Big clue - it's not going to support your argument.......

that is one of the worst maths based arguments ever tbh

if there were 20 teams in spl there would still have only been 2 winners since it started (10%)

if there were 12 teams in epl there would still have been 3 winners in the same time period (25%)

[Rod Paradise]

I.E. coinflip league.... wee question for you - since the SPL started 2 teams have won it, in the same time how many have won the English League? Or to put it in another way - in Scotland from a 12 team league 2 have won it, 16.7%, the %age of the 20 team league in England is?

Big clue - it's not going to support your argument.......

that is one of the worst maths based arguments ever tbh

if there were 20 teams in spl there would still have only been 2 winners since it started (10%)

if there were 12 teams in epl there would still have been 3 winners in the same time period (25%)

I think you just beat it - Scotland has less population than London, but we're supposed to compare the 2 leagues with equal amounts of teams?

Please note I'm not arguing that the SPL is comparable with the EPL - that'd be daft, but the shots aimed at the SPL are mainly based in ignorance. Also the assumption from weet Potato that we'd be desperate to join the EPL come across as a bit smug. As I said, financially it makes sense, but the other implications mean it's an awkward one, there's not many fans up here who can't see good and bad points.

[mckelinho]

I'm a Rangers fan and would like to see the Rangers and Celtic joining the EPL, however that would completely shut down the SPL and lower league. They would become non existant like the Welsh League. If it was going to hapen we'd be better with a British league.

English are very ignorant when talking about the SPL. Considering Scotland's population is smaller than Londons. Rangers and Celtic are relatively big clubs.

Rangers and Celtic in the EPL would give the English a taste of what passion for football is as at the moment they only really get that from Liverpool

[TightEnd]

Rangers and Celtic in the EPL would give the English a taste of what passion for football is as at the moment they only really get that from Liverpool

whooooooooooooooooooooooooaa

the last statement is complete balderdash sir....every club has its fan nuts.

[Rod Paradise]

Rangers and Celtic in the EPL would give the English a taste of what passion for football is as at the moment they only really get that from Liverpool

whooooooooooooooooooooooooaa

the last statement is complete balderdash sir....every club has its fan nuts.

A bit of a sweeping statement agreed. Although I'd say the %age fanatic is possibly higher in Glasgow - for good and bad reasons.

[Rod Paradise]

PS - DAMMIT Sweet Potato, Gatso & Tighty - see what you made me do - I defended one of them!!! 

[TightEnd]

Rangers and Celtic in the EPL would give the English a taste of what passion for football is as at the moment they only really get that from Liverpool

whooooooooooooooooooooooooaa

the last statement is complete balderdash sir....every club has its fan nuts.

A bit of a sweeping statement agreed. Although I'd say the %age fanatic is possibly higher in Glasgow - for good and bad reasons.

Agreed. Of course its the biggest Derby in the British Isles for all sorts of reasons, not all footballing. But for the same reasons I don't fully understand the Old Firm, some Old Firm fans wouldn't get the background, history and passion of some of the big English Derbies.

[Rod Paradise]

Rangers and Celtic in the EPL would give the English a taste of what passion for football is as at the moment they only really get that from Liverpool

whooooooooooooooooooooooooaa

the last statement is complete balderdash sir....every club has its fan nuts.

A bit of a sweeping statement agreed. Although I'd say the %age fanatic is possibly higher in Glasgow - for good and bad reasons.

Agreed. Of course its the biggest Derby in the British Isles for all sorts of reasons, not all footballing. But for the same reasons I don't fully understand the Old Firm, some Old Firm fans wouldn't get the background, history and passion of some of the big English Derbies.

I think it's hard for any fan to understand why other people support other teams - because support isn't rational, especially when it's of the fanatical support variety.

Even though I've other clubs I actively look out for, come the crunch I'm a Celtic supporter first, last & overall.

[gatso]

English are very ignorant when talking about the SPL. Considering Scotland's population is smaller than Londons. Rangers and Celtic are relatively big clubs.

I don't understand the point you're making here. you seem to be patronising yourself by saying you're just relatively big

my local league draws from a much smaller population than that of glasgow. the 2 best teams in that league are also relatively big but I'm not sure they'd fare too well in the epl tbh