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« on: July 27, 2009, 07:30:32 PM »

should i be flatting or folding to his raise on the flop once i reraise am i preiced in to call


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Table '181768015 595' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: iluster (950 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: EnaMA (4750 in chips)
Seat 3: MrMoney1285 (5070 in chips)
Seat 4: Ironside (12439 in chips)
Seat 5: dusia123 (10450 in chips)
Seat 6: blueaceblue (5495 in chips)
Seat 7: Sgt.Plaag (10051 in chips)
Seat 8: fraisooo (1700 in chips)
Seat 9: aflush1 (2525 in chips)
fraisooo: posts small blind 75
aflush1: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
iluster: folds
EnaMA: folds
MrMoney1285: folds
Ironside: raises 225 to 375
dusia123: folds
blueaceblue: folds
Sgt.Plaag: calls 375
fraisooo: folds
aflush1: calls 225
*** FLOP *** [ ]
aflush1: checks
Ironside: bets 750
Sgt.Plaag: raises 1050 to 1800
aflush1: folds
Ironside: raises 2550 to 4350
Sgt.Plaag: raises 5326 to 9676 and is all-in
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 07:36:53 PM »

Once you 3bet you can't pass, always have a plan!
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 07:39:27 PM »

Once you 3bet you can't pass, always have a plan!

plan was to get it all in

but was it the right plan?
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 10:47:25 PM »

I think the 3bet is fine. Seeing as you're out of position and you don't want him to check back the turn as some kind of straight draw is fairly likely.

A set is plausible but lots of other stuff he could be raising on the button here. +99 & TT might have seen a 3bet pf. JQ & ATs just as likely really.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 02:25:16 AM »

he has 89s and sure doesnt get there.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 01:43:10 PM »

I have no idea what 'resstants' are.

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 01:49:05 PM »

Pretty sure oppo has 78 here.

Can't decide what suits though. Probably 
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 01:55:55 PM »

Stop 2.5xing it b4 the antes come in.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 02:19:25 PM »

Stop 2.5xing it b4 the antes come in.

why?
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 02:55:11 PM »

Stop 2.5xing it b4 the antes come in.

why?

Yep I'm curious to know why too.

Ninja Edit to delete spelling mistake, Ironside started this thread , that must be why!
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 03:39:28 PM »



FIRST - have a plan!

second - he shouldnt have 78o (as he is should smooth on that board and raise the turn)

he could easily have 2 pr but you have the redraws

Although it is a very coordinated board for 2prs etc - he is just a likely to have the str8 draws here - your read would need to be player dependant

Make sure you 3 x pre antes - to stop the BB calling ATC (as you are usually raising genuine hands)

I have no prob getting em in here - but he can easily have 2pr - so you have 5 cards on the turn and 8 on the river

Just noticed this is a $5 game so he could also have JT AT JJ QQ KK AA (and the sets obv)

Im def getting em in in a $5 game


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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2009, 02:09:39 PM »

Stop 2.5xing it b4 the antes come in.

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2009, 03:36:21 PM »

Stop 2.5xing it b4 the antes come in.

why?

Early in a tournament you should be concentrating on value betting with your better hands (as stealing the blinds with mediocre holdings will not increase your stack very much) and reducing potential callers implied odds.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2009, 02:21:53 AM »

well, given its 3 to the flop, you priced in a load of tosh pre and the guy raising was a coldacaller on the button, on this shitty board im happy bet folding. Im not very happy  about calling and re-evaluating out of position as the board is too coordinated and barring a 6 or a K i cant think of many ok/nice turn cards. I think getting it in fullring this deep on that flop w KK is dire. Ur absolutely crushed by his value range and his semibluffspew range (which i doubt he even has much of) is probably flipping with you anyway (Ts8s/10c9c etc).
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2009, 12:42:34 PM »

lol.. it's a $5 buy in and just feckin lol at the level 15 meta theory responses. Villian is AT/KT/JJ... just ship it in Iron.
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