do you go with ur hand here?

[outragous76]

$55 1100 runners - we have already cashed and are down to 80 players:

not that it matters decission wise - but i have been super tight - and c bet after most p/f raises

PokerStars Game #31293962682: Tournament #183606304, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2009/08/06 1:39:26 WET [2009/08/05 20:39:26 ET]
Table '183606304 72' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mddgfc (27147 in chips)
Seat 2: outragous76 (51080 in chips)
Seat 3: texaszanardi (27694 in chips)
Seat 4: vaksi31 (36463 in chips)
Seat 5: FMatos78 (96473 in chips)
Seat 6: wmmcl (66750 in chips)
Seat 7: mmzzqq (36192 in chips)
Seat 8: 13LuckyLucky (43770 in chips)
Seat 9: tinsil8 (51933 in chips)
mddgfc: posts the ante 150
outragous76: posts the ante 150
texaszanardi: posts the ante 150
vaksi31: posts the ante 150
FMatos78: posts the ante 150
wmmcl: posts the ante 150
mmzzqq: posts the ante 150
13LuckyLucky: posts the ante 150
tinsil8: posts the ante 150
13LuckyLucky: posts small blind 800
tinsil8: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [ ]
mddgfc: folds
FMatos78 said, "nh"
outragous76: raises 2050 to 3650
texaszanardi: folds
vaksi31: folds
FMatos78: calls 3650
wmmcl: folds
mmzzqq: folds
13LuckyLucky: calls 2850
tinsil8: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
13LuckyLucky: checks
outragous76: checks
FMatos78: bets 8000
13LuckyLucky: raises 31970 to 39970 and is all-in
outragous76:

[riverdave]

More info required of particular importance is average stack. Assuming you arent short here as you've played it you could quite easily pass worst case you could find yourself 3 way with only 6 or even as few as 4 live outs if some of them are in oppo's hands. Of course you could find yourself heads up with 14 outs but that seems unlikely.
I don't really like the flop check my normal line would be bet/price myself in to call the shove/bink. The problem is we don't know what the flop leader is going to do and we could of given ourselves a lot more information by leading ourselves. What was thought process behind checking, were you hoping to check shove/bink for free?

[dousche]

why can i only see  in your hand?

[dousche]

ok, as soon as i post that changes to  . only now theres only  on the flop. effing internet ghosts

[AlexMartin]

no, i fold

[outragous76]

More info required of particular importance is average stack. Assuming you arent short here as you've played it you could quite easily pass worst case you could find yourself 3 way with only 6 or even as few as 4 live outs if some of them are in oppo's hands. Of course you could find yourself heads up with 14 outs but that seems unlikely.
I don't really like the flop check my normal line would be bet/price myself in to call the shove/bink. The problem is we don't know what the flop leader is going to do and we could of given ourselves a lot more information by leading ourselves. What was thought process behind checking, were you hoping to check shove/bink for free?

if i fold i am left with the average stack (circa 25bb's)

The reason i checked is that I am against 2 opponents on a semi scary board, and i figured that c-betting just lets someone jam in my eye then i am forced to go with my hand.

I was prepared to let someone bet then shove all in, but then when i have a bettor and a reshipper in front it wasnt really as i had planned.

I guess my question is, given that I am in the money - do I take this spot to become CL and press on for the win, or do I realise that I still have a healthy stack and fold?

The first flat caller had been flatting alot of my raises but folded to most of my c bets and the 2nd guy i just figured called because of the price. However this was one of those boards which i am not a fan of c betting against 2 opponents. I wanted to see if they would give me a free card and see if i could bink.

so do you go for the win or fold and maintain 25bbs?

[MANTIS01]

I think folding is more going for the win than calling

[EvilPie]

Easy pass.

If you're short or huge then possibly call but in this spot drop it quick.

[Cf]

Snap fold for me.

[outragous76]

ok thats all fine - i just wanted to check.

I did snap fold but wondered where people stood on this kind of spot

interestingly the hands were KJ for the bettor and AQo for the all in - KJ snap called!

board ran dry 22 or something

cheers

[gatso]

I think folding is more going for the win than calling

err, this

other than being late for the pub I can't see a single reason to not fold

[GreekStein]

I did snap fold

You not consider folding faster?

[MC]

It's a fold, surprised you didn't lead out this flop though...although it probs worked out better for you that you didn't...

[Sack it off]

I think if your up against a flush draw your fkd

If your up against J10 your fkd

Combine these... your fkd.

I'd fold



If the board was rainbow that could change things