You are the TD. You are Player B.

[outragous76]

Player A def angle shooting

Ruling is OK I suppose

Player B should make a mential note to slow roll player A next time and say "i just wanted to make sure that all your chips were over the line" after tanking and waiting for the clock to get to 1 second!

[Claw75]

correct ruling, lessons learnt I guess.

Looking at it from Player A's point of view, if my chips hadn't gone over the line and I hadn't said 'call' I'd be wanting to take my chips back as well once player B has prematurely exposed his hand.  I heard about the hand, but didn't witness it. I know the feeling from those at the table is that it was an angle shoot, but player A does have a tendency to be a bit dramatic in his actions sometimes.

[Ironside]

correct ruling, lessons learnt I guess.

Looking at it from Player A's point of view, if my chips hadn't gone over the line and I hadn't said 'call' I'd be wanting to take my chips back as well once player B has prematurely exposed his hand.  I heard about the hand, but didn't witness it. I know the feeling from those at the table is that it was an angle shoot, but player A does have a tendency to be a bit dramatic in his actions sometimes.

thought tikay had the night off

[MANTIS01]

The guy hasn't got much etiquette to pull a stunt like that but then again you're at the poker table so you should be alive to the possibility of angle-shooting. If a guy does that flip one 9 and say ffs...then enjoy his snap call. Player B was one step behind when he should be looking to be one step ahead. While this is poor form you can still see this type of behaviour as an opportunity. It's only an outrage when it happens to you imo...and it shouldn't happen to you imo.

[Drain Alien]

Player B is incredibly handsome* and gifted at poker if this makes any difference?

*not Paul Ephremsen

does he have very hairy arms?

[Drain Alien]

Given the info available I think the ruling is correct (unusual for the G!)

Player A's actions are highly questionable, but at the end of the day player B made the mistake and suffered the consequences.

And I think player A should have been given a warning.

[doubleup]

Player B should be aggrieved that he hasnt learnt to contain his excitment enough yet!

Why was he exited - he had something like the 8th nuts. 

Cardrooms should have pointy hats with a big "A" for angle-shooter written on them.  The likes of player A should be allowed to play only if they wear one of the pointy hats.

[StuartHopkin]

This thread is BULL!!

lol

are you all telling me that if your ABOUT to call and someone flips there hand to show your losing you COMPLETE your call???

unless someone knows more about this than has been posted then I would suggest everyone would do the same as player A

Yeah he had the 8th nuts but why would you instaflip your hand if you werent excited about winning the pot.

Lets change the board to AAxxx and your about to call with your straight chips in hand and the guy your about to call flips AA and shouts 'F U I HAVE THE FRICKIN QUADS BABY' do you all still put your chips in and say 'well i was gonna call before he did that so i suppose its only right that i still call??

Someone please explain what I am missing, with only the info on here player A appears to have done nothing wrong.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

This thread is BULL!!

lol

are you all telling me that if your ABOUT to call and someone flips there hand to show your losing you COMPLETE your call???

unless someone knows more about this than has been posted then I would suggest everyone would do the same as player A

Yeah he had the 8th nuts but why would you instaflip your hand if you werent excited about winning the pot.

Lets change the board to AAxxx and your about to call with your straight chips in hand and the guy your about to call flips AA and shouts 'F U I HAVE THE FRICKIN QUADS BABY' do you all still put your chips in and say 'well i was gonna call before he did that so i suppose its only right that i still call??

Someone please explain what I am missing, with only the info on here player A appears to have done nothing wrong.

I was going to make a similar point but you've said it just as good as I would.

[Claw75]

I don't think anyone has said anything to the contrary

[Rookie (Rodney)]

I don't think anyone has said anything to the contrary

Everyone saying player A should get a warning etc and that he was angleshooting.

[Claw75]

I don't think anyone has said anything to the contrary

Everyone saying player A should get a warning etc and that he was angleshooting.

ah yeah, soz -  I thought Stu was saying that people on the thread had said he should be held to the call.

[Woodsey]

We all know what the correct ruling is technically, but its the possible angle shoot that is the potential problem. Sure there are those that say 'the rules are the rules and that's that, fk the newbie', but if you have someone deliberately taking advantage of a newer player then that's just wrong. If this is not the first time they have done it, its probably just because they are a shit player and can't win any other way.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

How is it an angleshoot though?

He picks his chips up, goes to call and the player exposes his cards. He then asks the dealer what the ruling is and the ruling is agreed that he is allowed to make a decision still.

Like any of you wouldnt do the same in Player A's shoes. Player B's mistake.

[Woodsey]

How is it an angleshoot though?

He picks his chips up, goes to call and the player exposes his cards. He then asks the dealer what the ruling is and the ruling is agreed that he is allowed to make a decision still.

Like any of you wouldnt do the same in Player A's shoes. Player B's mistake.

OK it could have been a genuine error, but you know what I'm talking about we have all seen it at the table at some point or other. You can normally work out if it is an angle shoot or not. I would never do it deliberately, or say/do any random shit other than 'call' that may encourage the other player to turn over his cards.