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« on: August 24, 2009, 12:11:29 AM »

Small blind leads out for 600 on the flop.
UTG+1 says nothing and throws out 2 x 500 chips.

Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 12:13:14 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 12:14:17 AM »

call, innit.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 12:24:47 AM »

I would previously say raise. More than one chip. 50% of the required amount. TDA rule:

31.   Raises 
A raise must be at least the size of the previous raise.  If a player puts in a raise of 50% or more of the previous bet but less than the minimum raise, he or she will be required to make a full raise. The raise will be exactly the minimum raise allowed. In no-limit and pot limit, an all-in bet of less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who has already acted

That said, they released a new rule this year to clear up the more than one chip situation.

The TDA decided to release a new rule this year to clear this sort of situation up.

33.  Multiple Chips
Unless a raise has been declared, placing multiple chips in the pot that add to less than double the bet one is facing will be deemed a call if removal of any one chip leaves less than the bet the player could have called.


That suggests it's a call, though the rule is a bit of a mouthful.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 12:26:20 AM »

Its a call
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 12:27:41 AM »

It's a call.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 12:27:59 AM »

Its a call
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 12:29:47 AM »

I know it's a call. Just a case of whether if should be imo. CF has cleared it up with his sound knowledge of the rule book though.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 12:31:26 AM »

that new rule makes no sense does it?

so if he threw out 1x1k, 1x100 and 3x25 which should clearly be a min raise it's now classed as a call because if you took out the 1k chip you're left with less than 600

not the greatest rule change in history
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 01:53:18 AM »

I know it's a call. Just a case of whether if should be imo. Nana has cleared it up with her sound knowledge of the rule book though and excellent singing voice.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 07:41:59 AM »

I know it's a call. Just a case of whether if should be imo. Nana has cleared it up with her sound knowledge of the rule book though and excellent singing voice.

FYP.

sigh! i'm not wearing my glasses at dtd this time lol
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 12:33:35 PM »

I know it's a call. Just a case of whether if should be imo. Nana has cleared it up with her sound knowledge of the rule book though and excellent singing voice.

FYP.

sigh! i'm not wearing my glasses at dtd this time lol

Unless you've had a hair cut the Nana name stands imo. Just Nana with contacts.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 03:08:09 PM »

I always thought this was a raise, because he's used two chips and put in more than 50% required for a raise

 
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 03:15:22 PM »

Its a call
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 03:38:30 PM »

I always thought this was a raise, becausee's used two chips and put in more than 50% required for a raise

 


the strict interpretation of it under any set of rules (until that new nonsensical rule that nana's quoted) is that it's a raise but I think common sense would always come into play here as it's obv meant to be a call
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