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« on: August 24, 2009, 01:27:44 AM »
£100, live tourney at Luton.

9 Left everyone in the money as savers have been done, average stack 35k, I have 42000. Blinds 800/1600/100. I'm in mid position with   and raise to 4k. Button, who is tight aggressive, announces raise, and makes it 10k, but it goes in as a string bet, and the dealer declares it a raise to 8k. He has around 20k back. Back to me.

Shove or call?
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 01:29:29 AM »
Shove.

Very quickly.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 01:30:52 AM »
Quote from: EvilPie on August 24, 2009, 01:29:29 AM
Shove.

Very quickly.

he has  Two Clubs
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 01:38:36 AM »
disagree

Tank- then shove
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 01:39:35 AM »
never shove or call. its shove or fold. can find a fold here against some people but most time im shipping jacks here.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 01:43:50 AM »
string shove
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 03:58:38 AM »
He has    .

Shove.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 08:25:53 AM »
Put all your chips in the middle of the table
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 09:35:29 AM »
Quote from: Cf on August 24, 2009, 08:25:53 AM
Put all your chips in the middle of the table

Yeah we all know that.

How do you put them in though? That's the important bit.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 09:45:33 AM »
I'm prob getting them in but to be honest I don't like it as much as everyone else seems to be suggesting. Online it's a one hand in the air job.

People tend to play pretty tight live once they make the final. Obviously if it's Alex Martin 3-betting us I'm fistpumping it in but I don't like this so much. I'd expect a straight up 3-bet shove from 99,1010 and AK but this 3-bet size with his stack back looks to me like he has a monster and he wants it paying.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 10:12:21 AM »
He describes the button as a tight aggressive player. I probably fall into this category myself (tho i've been experimenting with a looser play style recently). TAG players are certainly capable of making moves, especially in position.

Had he described the button player as tight passive, or weak, etc, then I might be more inclined to be worried. Given he's been described as TAG though I assume the OP gives him game a certain amount of credit. Against this player I'm shipping jacks with one hand in the air. TAG players get away with murder. Being uncomfortable getting jacks in against them against a 3bet is an indication of how much they can get away with.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 10:43:11 AM »
Quote from: Cf on August 24, 2009, 10:12:21 AM
He describes the button as a tight aggressive player. I probably fall into this category myself (tho i've been experimenting with a looser play style recently). TAG players are certainly capable of making moves, especially in position.

Had he described the button player as tight passive, or weak, etc, then I might be more inclined to be worried. Given he's been described as TAG though I assume the OP gives him game a certain amount of credit. Against this player I'm shipping jacks with one hand in the air. TAG players get away with murder. Being uncomfortable getting jacks in against them against a 3bet is an indication of how much they can get away with.

Didn't read the OP properly.

Yeah if he's aggro you have no choice really but to get this in. I still don't like the 3-bet size and don't think he'll be 3-betting light just because he's aggro with only 20k back.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 10:51:28 AM »
Quote from: celtic on August 24, 2009, 01:27:44 AM
Button, who is tight aggressive, announces raise, and makes it 10k, but it goes in as a string bet, and the dealer declares it a raise to 8k.

Nice angle-fumble with rockets IMO.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 10:56:43 AM »
Quote from: EvilPie on August 24, 2009, 09:35:29 AM
Quote from: Cf on August 24, 2009, 08:25:53 AM
Put all your chips in the middle of the table

Yeah we all know that.

How do you put them in though? That's the important bit.

Put them in Teddy KGB style OBV!!
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 11:48:55 AM »
Quote from: GreekStein on August 24, 2009, 09:45:33 AM
People tend to play pretty tight live once they make the final.

FML. I think I start playing the loosest-most stupid poker ever.

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I'd expect a straight up 3-bet shove from 99,1010 and AK but this 3-bet size with his stack back looks to me like he has a monster and he wants it paying.

Agree with this. He might still have AK, but any pocket pair you're beating, he's either shoving or folding I reckon.
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