Random Knife Piercings in some random part in the middle of the country

[bolt pp]

Such a divide on blonde atm, it's like its been cut right down the middle.

and I will tell you what, people after people come up to me and tell me why they are not posting on blonde anymore. A majority of these are female. Women in particular find blonde a far more threatening place than it ever was.

traffic is lower, people feel disenfranchised

they say..its rude, I get flamed, no respect...

One very respected blonde described it the other day as "posting on blonde now is like trench warfare"


Personally I like to see a lively and vibrant forum full of all sorts of characters...but recently the balance is all wrong

i think it's the price you pay for it being a fully commercialised forum now, you cant have untold sponsors, banners, logo's and a card room with casino and expect it still to retain the community based ethos from back in the day.

Actually its not fully commercialised, lots of things not done so as to retain community ethos

The card-room has been around since 06. The worsening of forum "feel" is new as of the last six months I'd say

And furthermore I simply disagree with you I don;t think having sponsors or logos affects one iota whether people flame each other, are decent to each other, swear as a matter of course in posts etc

no but the numbers increase because of it which inevitably means the % of flamming posts/swearing etc will increase also

[bolt pp]

[quote author=TightEnd link=topic=43923.msg1033317#msg1033317 date=1251812260

It may well be I am losing a little perspective here, but I am damn sure some of these attitudes are not those we'd have found on here nine-twelve months ago

seriously, what attitudes? I've just re-read the whole thread and I'm struggling to find a single post with anything that could be described as attitude

attitudes on lots of threads. In this particular one a mods decision was rubbished, fair enough, and then became fair game for all and sundry to pile in
[/quote]

yeah but none of it is vindictive or nasty, people are just having a laugh that's all, it's been a funny thread.

[TightEnd]

Such a divide on blonde atm, it's like its been cut right down the middle.

and I will tell you what, people after people come up to me and tell me why they are not posting on blonde anymore. A majority of these are female. Women in particular find blonde a far more threatening place than it ever was.

traffic is lower, people feel disenfranchised

they say..its rude, I get flamed, no respect...

One very respected blonde described it the other day as "posting on blonde now is like trench warfare"


Personally I like to see a lively and vibrant forum full of all sorts of characters...but recently the balance is all wrong

i think it's the price you pay for it being a fully commercialised forum now, you cant have untold sponsors, banners, logo's and a card room with casino and expect it still to retain the community based ethos from back in the day.

Actually its not fully commercialised, lots of things not done so as to retain community ethos

The card-room has been around since 06. The worsening of forum "feel" is new as of the last six months I'd say

And furthermore I simply disagree with you I don;t think having sponsors or logos affects one iota whether people flame each other, are decent to each other, swear as a matter of course in posts etc

no but the numbers increase because of it which inevitably means the % of flamming posts/swearing etc will increase also

Again, I disagree. Attracting new members, which we have consistently done, did not lead to a higher percentage of problematic posts until recently.

We as mods also have to hold our hands up. We dropped the ball (my personal opinion) as so few were around for all sorts of personal and professional reasons for most of this year. We therefore let things slip.

[EvilPie]

Can't really see any attitude here Tighty to be fair.

The mod decision to remove all the DTD's was a bit silly and it's difficult to deny that surely?

A few people said it was unnecessary, I think the mods realise that it probably was and the silly people know that the mods know it was.

The whole thread got a little bit silly so the juveniles (I include myself) have decided to have a bit of fun on it. Yes this fun is at the mods expense but surely this can be seen as harmless fun on this occasion? Nobody's actually directed anything at an individual, it's just a bit of a rubdown as far as I can see with no malice intended.

A bit of childish humour really helps the day go by sometimes. Nothing wrong with acting like a 12 year old occasionally if it make one happy imo.

Btw. Great thread Dewi!! 

[gatso]

It may well be I am losing a little perspective here, but I am damn sure some of these attitudes are not those we'd have found on here nine-twelve months ago

seriously, what attitudes? I've just re-read the whole thread and I'm struggling to find a single post with anything that could be described as attitude

attitudes on lots of threads. In this particular one a mods decision was rubbished, fair enough, and then became fair game for all and sundry to pile in

it was a light hearted thread, right up until the point that you stepped in to criticise it. now it's not

your point may well be valid for the forum as a whole but to come on to a thread where people are enjoing themselves and bring that thread down only makes things worse. if you're going to criticise peoples attitudes then surely it's best to do it on a thread where people are actually out of line

[GreekStein]

[quote author=TightEnd link=topic=43923.msg1033317#msg1033317 date=1251812260

It may well be I am losing a little perspective here, but I am damn sure some of these attitudes are not those we'd have found on here nine-twelve months ago

seriously, what attitudes? I've just re-read the whole thread and I'm struggling to find a single post with anything that could be described as attitude

attitudes on lots of threads. In this particular one a mods decision was rubbished, fair enough, and then became fair game for all and sundry to pile in
[/quote]

Just seems like an overexaggeration to me.

Tikay is Tikay and we all love him for it. It's clear his decision was to protect DTD and everyone on Blonde is behind that 100%, but this idea in particular was just a bit OTT. Fine, no problem there, easy mistake to make.

Subsequently everyone just started mucking around and having a joke on the thread about it. No-one argued but instead just made banter and a bit of a laugh of it. Surely that's what this community spirit that you say we're losing is all about?

[kinboshi]

ITB's only been back a matter of hours, and look what he's done already!

[Dingdell]

[quote author=TightEnd link=topic=43923.msg1033317#msg1033317 date=1251812260

It may well be I am losing a little perspective here, but I am damn sure some of these attitudes are not those we'd have found on here nine-twelve months ago

seriously, what attitudes? I've just re-read the whole thread and I'm struggling to find a single post with anything that could be described as attitude

attitudes on lots of threads. In this particular one a mods decision was rubbished, fair enough, and then became fair game for all and sundry to pile in

Just seems like an overexaggeration to me.

Tikay is Tikay and we all love him for it. It's clear his decision was to protect DTD and everyone on Blonde is behind that 100%, but this idea in particular was just a bit OTT. Fine, no problem there, easy mistake to make.
Subsequently everyone just started mucking around and having a joke on the thread about it. No-one argued but instead just made banter and a bit of a laugh of it. Surely that's what this community spirit that you say we're losing is all about?
[/quote]

I think the point is that it can't just be let go - everyone has to have a go about it. If Tikay wants to takes something out of a post he can do it. Why then does there have to be so much discussion about it? Just let it be. Are people sad enough that they have nothing else to do? Life is too short imo.

This is a community based forum and we, as members, have the opportunity to join in and say our 10 pence worth if we want to. But at the moment it seems to be that everything is questioned. That may not be the case, my view may be being coloured by just a few cases, but as I see it you often post at your peril and thats not what this forum is supposed to be about. And no - before ayone asks it wasn't me who said that Blonde was like trench warfare!

[celtic]

Tracey.

Were you the blonde that said posting on blonde was like trench warfare?

 

[Dingdell]

Tracey.

Were you the blonde that said posting on blonde was like trench warfare?

 

No - that was Dewi :-)

[GreekStein]

Prob best I keep schtum

[celtic]

Ahh right, in that case if tighty says it was a female member that leaves claw, suzanne, laxie or kinboshi....

[TightEnd]

Prob best I keep schtum

Cos don't (as long as you don't flame me too much  )..discussion is good

We do, absolutely 100% genuinely, always strive to improve this place and put a lot of work into it

I feel we've gone wrong along the line

If I, or colleagues, have got things wrong on this, in your opinion, then let us know.

[EvilPie]

[quote author=TightEnd link=topic=43923.msg1033317#msg1033317 date=1251812260

It may well be I am losing a little perspective here, but I am damn sure some of these attitudes are not those we'd have found on here nine-twelve months ago

seriously, what attitudes? I've just re-read the whole thread and I'm struggling to find a single post with anything that could be described as attitude

attitudes on lots of threads. In this particular one a mods decision was rubbished, fair enough, and then became fair game for all and sundry to pile in

Just seems like an overexaggeration to me.

Tikay is Tikay and we all love him for it. It's clear his decision was to protect DTD and everyone on Blonde is behind that 100%, but this idea in particular was just a bit OTT. Fine, no problem there, easy mistake to make.
Subsequently everyone just started mucking around and having a joke on the thread about it. No-one argued but instead just made banter and a bit of a laugh of it. Surely that's what this community spirit that you say we're losing is all about?

I think the point is that it can't just be let go - everyone has to have a go about it. If Tikay wants to takes something out of a post he can do it. Why then does there have to be so much discussion about it? Just let it be. Are people sad enough that they have nothing else to do? Life is too short imo.

This is a community based forum and we, as members, have the opportunity to join in and say our 10 pence worth if we want to. But at the moment it seems to be that everything is questioned. That may not be the case, my view may be being coloured by just a few cases, but as I see it you often post at your peril and thats not what this forum is supposed to be about. And no - before ayone asks it wasn't me who said that Blonde was like trench warfare!

[/quote]

People on this thread weren't discussing it though Tracey. It wasn't a case of people letting it go because there was nothing to let go.

There was no heated debate just a bit of gentle light humoured mickey taking on a thread that didn't need to get serious.

It would've been gone in about 20 minutes once the 4 or 5 people involved had had their bit of childish fun. Once again I include myself as one of the childish fun folk.

[Ginger]

The mod decision to remove all the DTD's was a bit silly and it's difficult to deny that surely?

A few people said it was unnecessary, I think the mods realise that it probably was and the silly people know that the mods know it was.

Actually, I don't think it was silly. The choice was simple, remove the whole thread and be accused of being heavy handed, or remove 'DTD' and be accused of being heavy handed.

With the outcome being the same either way, I thought there was no need to remove the thread in it's entirety, so I got on with fulfilling a request made and to wait for what seems to be the inevitable outcome these days.