Micko
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« on: September 03, 2009, 07:31:01 PM » |
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Recently played £1/£2/ live omaha and interesting hand came up interested to hear what youse think... Quite aggressive action and straddleing preflop someone upfront makes it £25 to go i call in the cutoff with five of us see the flop and it comes down a nice looking the three players in front of me check so im happy to bet pot of £125 until button repots its to £530 hes a very good solid player so everyone else gets out of the way and action back to me. Im playing £1200ish the villian has £360 left after his repot with his stack size im never calling to fold turn so i think its a shove or fold? Some of my thoughts at the time- Was winning £900 in the game at the time and thought i could find a better spot - Had the villian on a set likely top set also had no backdoor flush draws Be interested to hear some feedback on this.
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Karabiner
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 10:25:38 PM » |
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Easy shove here for me as played, but an equally easy fold pre-flop.
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boldie
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 08:29:01 AM » |
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Easy shove here for me as played, but an equally easy fold pre-flop.
pretty much this.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 08:38:35 AM » |
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So you dont mind taking the set on?
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George2Loose
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 09:38:59 AM » |
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fold pre for me
If you don't want to play a big pot, don't pot the flop
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boldie
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 09:51:44 AM » |
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So you dont mind taking the set on?
Not really no. I obv haven't run the numbers here (as I stink at maths) but the wrap is pretty massive here.
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 09:52:51 AM » |
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Just echoing everyone else's thoughts particularly George's
If you don't want to play big pots with tough decisions for a lot of money don't get involved in straddled hands with marginal holdings.
As played we're still 45% against a set unless he's got some of our outs or other redraws.
Get it in.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 09:55:02 AM » |
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Fold Pre.
Check back the flop in a multi way pot this deep as you will get check-raised an absolute shedload.
Now it's just about numbers.
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 11:13:23 AM » |
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Fold Pre.
Check back the flop in a multi way pot this deep as you will get check-raised an absolute shedload.
Now it's just about numbers.
If i was up front im pretty sure i check call this flop but as im in the cutoff im happy potting to take it down right there. I disagree about getting checkraised i think anyone with a set will lead and two pairs will check call to see the turn action.
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Micko
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2009, 11:15:25 AM » |
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fold pre for me
If you don't want to play a big pot, don't pot the flop
I didt plan too but when its checked around that £125 in the pot looked nice lol
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 11:22:20 AM » |
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fold pre for me
If you don't want to play a big pot, don't pot the flop
I didt plan too but when its checked around that £125 in the pot looked nice lol Why not bet less than the pot?
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2009, 11:23:56 AM » |
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Fold Pre.
Check back the flop in a multi way pot this deep as you will get check-raised an absolute shedload.
Now it's just about numbers.
If i was up front im pretty sure i check call this flop but as im in the cutoff im happy potting to take it down right there. I disagree about getting checkraised i think anyone with a set will lead and two pairs will check call to see the turn action. Disagree with that. Leading against people this deep might seem pointless as it looks like a set and OOP it will mean you can be bluffed a lot on scary turns even when it hasn't hit your opponent. You'll also likely get more than one caller. A better line is the one your opponent took as he can now force you to make a decision for stacks when he knows he has the best hand (or best draw) rather than playing OOP to you on what could be a tricky turn/river with a lot of money back.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2009, 11:28:11 AM » |
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Anyway after a painful few minutes i mucked and was shown top set of jacks which i was pretty sure i was up against. I knew it was close to evenmoney shot with my hand even against a set but it was early enough in the game and they were alot of easier spots. I still think im bit unlucky to run into top set with one man behind me im sure a high percentage of time this gets through on the flop after the three checks in front. Oh well.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 11:30:47 AM » |
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Fold Pre.
Check back the flop in a multi way pot this deep as you will get check-raised an absolute shedload.
Now it's just about numbers.
If i was up front im pretty sure i check call this flop but as im in the cutoff im happy potting to take it down right there. I disagree about getting checkraised i think anyone with a set will lead and two pairs will check call to see the turn action. Disagree with that. Leading against people this deep might seem pointless as it looks like a set and OOP it will mean you can be bluffed a lot on scary turns even when it hasn't hit your opponent. You'll also likely get more than one caller. A better line is the one your opponent took as he can now force you to make a decision for stacks when he knows he has the best hand (or best draw) rather than playing OOP to you on what could be a tricky turn/river with a lot of money back. He did't checkraise he was on the button.
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Micko
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 11:33:21 AM » |
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fold pre for me
If you don't want to play a big pot, don't pot the flop
I didt plan too but when its checked around that £125 in the pot looked nice lol Why not bet less than the pot? Yes £75 obviously gets the same info.
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