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MANTIS01
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What kind of fuckery is this?
Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 09, 2009, 04:54:34 PM »
Quote from: david3103 on September 09, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on September 09, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: david3103 on September 09, 2009, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on September 09, 2009, 01:40:21 PM
Wait. Hero plays a big pot in this tournament and has feck all. Evilpie buddy I think you'll find that's 4-1 to me. WTF is wrong with everybody?
If anybody wants to win this tournament all they have to do is be a nit for the whole first day
. Seriously, nit poker is the abs nuts when everyone wants to hero jam with air all the time. Sam, the advice you have been offered in this thread is solid.
But what if
everyone
is playing that way?
Who's playing that way?
reading the tourney report, very few people. But you said that to win it you just needed to 'be a nit for the whole first day'. I have neither authority nor inclination to debate that statement, but I was curious as to what would happen if everybody was taking that approach.
It seems to me that the tournament is an epic battle between t'internet spewtards who fire every street with nothing into live nits who never fold anything. Patience seems like a pretty good virtue in this tournament.
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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I think lagtard is the way forward as you can then bust within first 2 levels and have a good day on the lash instead of grinding your ass off take a bad beat near the end of the day and everyone else is to pissed to catch them up so you just sit steaming
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 09, 2009, 06:00:05 PM »
Quote from: action man on September 09, 2009, 01:36:11 PM
whole thread is basically a "3barrell bluff brag"
Thats what i was thinking myself.
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AlexMartin
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 01:03:36 AM »
LOL how'd i miss this beauty in my hole.
Cliffnotes:- new guy, seems nice, comes on with brag "enlightening" thread about a pretty sick 3barrel bluff that appears to have worked because villain cant handread*. Thread is 100% bragament and Sam betrays some underlying bad theory (4b folding the nuts pre) which is pounced upon by head honcho, who has superior strategic knowledge. Lucky bollocks then rips into new guy. Some of the best mtt players in England then join in ripping new guy to absolute bits with some nasty jibes and unnecessary comments. New guy has balls and says no, theres a lot of ways to play this game and i dont care if you own this forum sir ill say what i want. Also bites which causes ego wars/ bad mouthing/stuff that makes Tikay wee himself (like chandra saying POT on 4th street @ 4am in a deep DC game). Mods (assume Tighty) polices it well, spectators have a laugh.
Dont worry Sam, these guys are all nice people and some (Greekstein) are pretty gifted at this stupid game. Dont ever think your view is correct though, i vividly remember about 4 years ago i stil bet for information. I still get crushed for that when i see golden bollocks.
*not gonna get into discussion about why, but 100% majority of mtt players take pot control in early stages a million more times than they take remotely thin 3 street value w AA/KK/AQ.
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George2Loose
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 01:26:57 AM »
Quote from: AlexMartin on September 10, 2009, 01:03:36 AM
LOL how'd i miss this beauty in my hole.
Cliffnotes:- new guy, seems nice, comes on with brag "enlightening" thread about a pretty sick 3barrel bluff that appears to have worked because villain cant handread*. Thread is 100% bragament and Sam betrays some underlying bad theory (4b folding the nuts pre) which is pounced upon by head honcho, who has superior strategic knowledge. Lucky bollocks then rips into new guy. Some of the best mtt players in England then join in ripping new guy to absolute bits with some nasty jibes and unnecessary comments. New guy has balls and says no, theres a lot of ways to play this game and i dont care if you own this forum sir ill say what i want. Also bites which causes ego wars/ bad mouthing/stuff that makes Tikay wee himself (like chandra saying POT on 4th street @ 4am in a deep DC game). Mods (assume Tighty) polices it well, spectators have a laugh.
Dont worry Sam, these guys are all nice people and some (Greekstein) are pretty gifted at this stupid game. Dont ever think your view is correct though, i vividly remember about 4 years ago i stil bet for information. I still get crushed for that when i see golden bollocks.
*not gonna get into discussion about why, but 100% majority of mtt players take pot control in early stages a million more times than they take remotely thin 3 street value w AA/KK/AQ.
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 11:41:00 AM »
Quote from: AlexMartin on September 10, 2009, 01:03:36 AM
LOL how'd i miss this beauty in my hole.
Cliffnotes:- new guy, seems nice, comes on with brag "enlightening" thread about a pretty sick 3barrel bluff that appears to have worked because villain cant handread*. Thread is 100% bragament and Sam betrays some underlying bad theory (4b folding the nuts pre) which is pounced upon by head honcho, who has superior strategic knowledge. Lucky bollocks then rips into new guy. Some of the best mtt players in England then join in ripping new guy to absolute bits with some nasty jibes and unnecessary comments. New guy has balls and says no, theres a lot of ways to play this game and i dont care if you own this forum sir ill say what i want. Also bites which causes ego wars/ bad mouthing/stuff that makes Tikay wee himself (like chandra saying POT on 4th street @ 4am in a deep DC game). Mods (assume Tighty) polices it well, spectators have a laugh.
Dont worry Sam, these guys are all nice people and some (Greekstein) are pretty gifted at this stupid game. Dont ever think your view is correct though, i vividly remember about 4 years ago i stil bet for information. I still get crushed for that when i see golden bollocks.
*not gonna get into discussion about why, but 100% majority of mtt players take pot control in early stages a million more times than they take remotely thin 3 street value w AA/KK/AQ.
Cliff Notes of the Year - never knew you had it in your Mr M. You summed it up perfectly, imo.
Except I never weed myself, though I did shed a metaphorical tear or two.
Whatever happened to the art of good debate, or conflict resolution?
Hey-ho.
EDIT - In response to a PM from a Third-Party, I must add - I have no idea who "golden bollocks" is. I'm guessing it's not Thewy this time though.
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 11:57:06 AM »
Alex I thought I made a pretty good post on your thread the other day but that is com!!!
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 12:41:23 PM »
Quote from: GreekStein on September 10, 2009, 11:57:06 AM
Alex I thought I made a pretty good post on your thread the other day but that is com!!!
blatent "please give my post more love
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GreekStein
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 12:50:57 PM »
Quote from: Cf on September 10, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on September 10, 2009, 11:57:06 AM
Alex I thought I made a pretty good post on your thread the other day but that is com!!!
blatent "please give my post more love
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actually it was thinly veiled
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 01:33:11 PM »
Just caught up with this thread. Yup it's now 4 - 1 to Mantis. I agree that in this tournament nittiness is a good strat. Picking spots is preferrable to getting over creative. Save that for day 2 when there's more at stake. It seems like a lot of players want to win this comp in the first day. That ain't gonna happen.
Poor old Flushy. First time I've ever seen him be nice to someone on PHA and give good advice backed up with a solid reason as to why and he gets ripped apart for it.
As for the hand. Erm.....
I don't know. Fold pre or something.
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 01:38:11 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on September 10, 2009, 01:33:11 PM
Just caught up with this thread. Yup it's now 4 - 1 to Mantis.
bit unfair though matt, you're always going to lose this one to mantis. you only get points for people playing the stone cold nuts but we all know how to play those hands so they won't get posted on here
mantis has taken the very clever line of choosing to earn points from hands which by their very nature are in need of analysis thus guaranteeing himself the win
you have been properly GGed
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 03:47:39 PM »
Quote from: gatso on September 10, 2009, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on September 10, 2009, 01:33:11 PM
Just caught up with this thread. Yup it's now 4 - 1 to Mantis.
bit unfair though matt, you're always going to lose this one to mantis. you only get points for people playing the stone cold nuts but we all know how to play those hands so they won't get posted on here
mantis has taken the very clever line of choosing to earn points from hands which by their very nature are in need of analysis thus guaranteeing himself the win
you have been properly GGed
No it doesn't have to be the nuts. Just something other than stone cold sod all would score me a point.
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 06:22:02 PM »
Agree- this tourney is soft you don't have to do much to make chips. Not quite nitiness and there seems to be a mix from the loosey gooseys to the tight is right breed.
It is easily the BEST value live tourney out there.
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Re: 3 Barrell Bluff from £300 DTD
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September 10, 2009, 06:37:44 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on September 09, 2009, 01:02:16 AM
Sorry but so much in this thread is just wrong.
I will try and be as nice as possible.
4betting to fold QQ is terrible, what did you expect to happen when you 4b? Showing it is even worse, you gained the info that you are going to do stupid stuff like 4b fold, you got the info his 5b range includes KK....not really a surprise.
You say its 150-300/50 but you are folding KQ UTG, plz dont you should be opening pretty much every unopened pot with antes this high.
Your plan if you made a hand on the river was the same if you missed, this is obviously pretty bad, you think guy has a weak hand that cant call a shove yet you plan to shove if you make your hand?!?!?!
If people keep opening on your btn, then just start 3betting.
Firing the turn with 1 pair combo's OOP and this stack size is usually a bad idea, have a specific plan before you do it.
Hope some of that was helpful, for the record i have never played this comp.
James, if you made yr hand in this spot on the end, how would you play it
Not a very interesting hand, not even veiled brag post, but your reply is quite interesting
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