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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2009, 02:29:04 PM »

ok lets say your crushing the 100/200 game but loseing a little at the 1/2 game

you played 100000 hands of 1/2 but only 1000 hands of 100/200

you made 10k at the 100/200 but lost 1k at the 1/2

so overall your a winner
but on average if all hands were at same level you would of lost

But obv all hands were not at the same level.

What is the point of a stat with an "IF" in the equation.

If my granny had balls, she would have been my grandad.

i dont know i just answered the question

No you didn't. You answered it "IF" all hands were at the same level, and they were not.

which is what the program did it made all the buys ins fictionally sb/bb and count as that

So how can it give me a minus avarage when I'm up overall?

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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2009, 02:30:06 PM »

fml

I am thinking about a new campaign, maybe the hall of fame?

I could go in for most t-shirt requests?
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2009, 02:31:26 PM »

ok lets say your crushing the 100/200 game but loseing a little at the 1/2 game

you played 100000 hands of 1/2 but only 1000 hands of 100/200

you made 10k at the 100/200 but lost 1k at the 1/2

so overall your a winner
but on average if all hands were at same level you would of lost

But obv all hands were not at the same level.

What is the point of a stat with an "IF" in the equation.

If my granny had balls, she would have been my grandad.

i dont know i just answered the question

No you didn't. You answered it "IF" all hands were at the same level, and they were not.

which is what the program did it made all the buys ins fictionally sb/bb and count as that

So how can it give me a minus avarage when I'm up overall?



because your winning at one level where you have played less hands but higher blinds and losing at a level where you have played more hands and smaller blinds
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2009, 02:35:17 PM »

ok lets say your crushing the 100/200 game but loseing a little at the 1/2 game

you played 100000 hands of 1/2 but only 1000 hands of 100/200

you made 10k at the 100/200 but lost 1k at the 1/2

so overall your a winner
but on average if all hands were at same level you would of lost

But obv all hands were not at the same level.

What is the point of a stat with an "IF" in the equation.

If my granny had balls, she would have been my grandad.

i dont know i just answered the question

No you didn't. You answered it "IF" all hands were at the same level, and they were not.

which is what the program did it made all the buys ins fictionally sb/bb and count as that

So how can it give me a minus avarage when I'm up overall?



because your winning at one level where you have played less hands but higher blinds and losing at a level where you have played more hands and smaller blinds

So on average, I'm losing when I'm actually winning?

Is it me 
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2009, 02:36:10 PM »

jamie gold syndrome
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2009, 02:36:58 PM »

ok lets say your crushing the 100/200 game but loseing a little at the 1/2 game

you played 100000 hands of 1/2 but only 1000 hands of 100/200

you made 10k at the 100/200 but lost 1k at the 1/2

so overall your a winner
but on average if all hands were at same level you would of lost

But obv all hands were not at the same level.

What is the point of a stat with an "IF" in the equation.

If my granny had balls, she would have been my grandad.

i dont know i just answered the question

No you didn't. You answered it "IF" all hands were at the same level, and they were not.

which is what the program did it made all the buys ins fictionally sb/bb and count as that

So how can it give me a minus avarage when I'm up overall?



because your winning at one level where you have played less hands but higher blinds and losing at a level where you have played more hands and smaller blinds

So on average, I'm losing when I'm actually winning?

Is it me  

your winning

BUT this is saying IF you played all your games at the same level you would actually be losing

good for you that your winning at the higher levels
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2009, 02:40:12 PM »

i dont know if this is right or not(i havnt really got a clue, im just guessing) but the overall figure is just compacted into an hourly win rate(its not actually what you win per hour) whereas the average win rate is more idicative of you broader stats.

lets say you played for five hours, lost $100 for the first 4 hours then won $900 in the last hour if you divide the profit between the hours it would be + but the average would be -
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2009, 02:41:05 PM »

lose 49K playing 1/2. take 50K to railheaven and win flip with ivey
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2009, 02:43:05 PM »

jamie gold syndrome

Is this a cryptic version of what Iron is saying? If so, I really would like to inderstand it.

I'm suspicious that it might be a rubdown, but if so, you've whooshed me. I'm not bright enough to figure it out.
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2009, 02:49:42 PM »

jamie gold syndrome

Is this a cryptic version of what Iron is saying? If so, I really would like to inderstand it.

I'm suspicious that it might be a rubdown, but if so, you've whooshed me. I'm not bright enough to figure it out.

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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2009, 02:54:30 PM »

jamie gold syndrome

Is this a cryptic version of what Iron is saying? If so, I really would like to inderstand it.

I'm suspicious that it might be a rubdown, but if so, you've whooshed me. I'm not bright enough to figure it out.

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lose 49K playing 1/2. take 50K to railheaven and win flip with ivey



Thanks, but that's still a little cryptic.

It seems to me that in this case he has lost a lot of sessions, but on average, he is in front.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2009, 02:56:44 PM »

jamie gold syndrome

Is this a cryptic version of what Iron is saying? If so, I really would like to inderstand it.

I'm suspicious that it might be a rubdown, but if so, you've whooshed me. I'm not bright enough to figure it out.

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lose 49K playing 1/2. take 50K to railheaven and win flip with ivey



Thanks, but that's still a little cryptic.

It seems to me that in this case he has lost a lot of sessions, but on average, he is in front.

Yeah think what Byron is getting at, is that Jamie Gold won 12 million (before legal wranglings) but has probably lost overall without this result.
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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2009, 03:02:06 PM »

jamie gold syndrome

Is this a cryptic version of what Iron is saying? If so, I really would like to inderstand it.

I'm suspicious that it might be a rubdown, but if so, you've whooshed me. I'm not bright enough to figure it out.


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lose 49K playing 1/2. take 50K to railheaven and win flip with ivey



Thanks, but that's still a little cryptic.

It seems to me that in this case he has lost a lot of sessions, but on average, he is in front.

Yeah think what Byron is getting at, is that Jamie Gold won 12 million (before legal wranglings) but has probably lost overall without this result.


Yes. that makes sense. It would obviously turn a plus into a minus of you discount a $12 million result, but in my stats, that's not the case.
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2009, 04:50:54 PM »

what are the units? it's possible to have one + and one - if the 2 stats are not the same. e.g. if one is $/h and one is bb/h and you play at different levels
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2009, 04:54:20 PM »

what are the units? it's possible to have one + and one - if the 2 stats are not the same. e.g. if one is $/h and one is bb/h and you play at different levels

Both $/h
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