5/1 City

[bolt pp]

always happends to liverpool chelsea and man u, they get as much extra time as they need, it's laughable

[George2Loose]

Stop whinging. You all know the score. If it was still 3-2 there would have been no injury time.

[WarBwastard]

United get that free-kick with about 95 minutes on the clock the referee is actually waving the players forward.  Very odd.

[bagel]

complete disgrace.really want to hear ref justify that.what it the point of parading an electronic board to 60000 people,when it says 4 minutes and he plays six or seven.even though i despise united,they did deserve the win.not like that though.COME ON SPURS.

[cambo]

awesome game

[TightEnd]

Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought

No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win

[Girgy85]

Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought

No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win

This

WTF was Ferdinand doing? Big lump of wood IMO! Give Jonny 'mfcking' Evans a run in the team! Different gravy IMO

[mondatoo]

Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought

No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win

[/b]

Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ??

BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/leeds in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example

[mondatoo]

Just watching motd ,how berserk is bellamy lol

[gatso]

so motd do the sums for us

90+4+.56 for the celebration +.30 for the substitution=95.26 and the goal was scored at 95.27

not really a lot to argue there, I think the ref's entitled to be out by a second or 2

[kukushkin88]

If you actually added up the amount of time the ball wasn't in play you would play 150 mins+ plus every game. It was the biggest piss take i've seen in pro sport, great game though.

[TightEnd]

Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought

No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win

[/b]

Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ??

BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/leeds in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example

where does this rant come from?

I personally couldn't give a jot whether Newcastle and Leeds were in the Prem. They have underperformed, therefore they aren't.

By your logic the likes of Preston and Huddersfield "belong" in the Premiership..each had considerable top flight success in the last 100 years, Blackpool too

It's one of the good things about British football that Wigan, Hull and the like can get there on merit..managed far better than some of the bigger underperformers they are currently above

[mondatoo]

Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought

No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win

[/b]

Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ??

BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/leeds in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example

where does this rant come from?

I personally couldn't give a jot whether Newcastle and Leeds were in the Prem. They have underperformed, therefore they aren't.

By your logic the likes of Preston and Huddersfield "belong" in the Premiership..each had considerable top flight success in the last 100 years, Blackpool too

It's one of the good things about British football that Wigan, Hull and the like can get there on merit..managed far better than some of the bigger underperformers they are currently above

It wasn't ment as a rant and the final point i said i didn't even want to debate it and was in no way directed at you.We don't deserve to be in the prem coz we wer shit this is a fact but i think it's a shame that big clubs with big fanbases are in the lower leagues compared to others who aren't but yes those deserve to be there and we don't.Probably had to much to drink to get my point across properly

[Girgy85]

Ryan Giggs had a fantastic match I Thought

No idea where the extra couple of minutes came from, but they deserved to win

[/b]

Ern debates seem to be hard to come by on here at the minute but that's all this is,but no they didn't, yes they were the better team but they didn't deserve to win because the final score should've been 3-3 the fact there was 4mins in the 1st place was a joke the fact that the ball was in the centre circle on 94:40 and the ref didn't blow is not explainable something is wrong here and this isn't blown out of proportion this always happens at old trafford more than anywhere,there wasn't one stoppage in the game after 90mins so why on earth where the still playing ??

BTW, one i have a bet on owen scoring so many goals so it was good for me and two i actually like man u they play good football and can be a joy to watch and you may not believe this but i'm not jealous at all as i'd rather be a newcastle fan than a man u fan as 90% of there fans don't even care,they could win every single trophy but it wouldn't mean as much as if we won the carling cup,cba to get into this seperate debate but i dont understand why any football fan would not want to see newcastle/bradford in the prem yes we don't have a right to be there but IT IS where we belong and some other clubs also that was just an example

FYP

[TightEnd]

gotcha. Sadly I am sober

Can't have it both ways Mond. In your ideal world the twenty biggest teams would make up the Prem but that would make the dreams of those supporting the other 72 league clubs, maybe 30 of whom have got into the Prem at one time or another, a little dimmer, wouldn't it?