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« on: September 20, 2009, 08:33:32 PM »


I'd welcome some views on this situation I tend to find myself in now and again being oop with a marginal hand.

$40 mtt online, 50ish players left from 115, i'm in around 10th place in chips. Been at the table for about 3 orbits, villain has been pretty active while i've been at the table with little resistance  and has just won a big pot to be near enough chip leader.  Only hand he has shown was AA to win the big pot.



Button ($11440.00)
HERO SB SB ($17035.50)T J
BB ($14960.00)
UTG ($9942.50)
UTG+1 ($17547.22)
VILLAIN MP MP ($21437.48)
MP ($9827.50)
CO-1 ($10020.00)
CO ($11433.38)

Preflop: , 2 folds, MP raises to 678.00, 4 folds, SB raises to 1980.00, 1 fold, MP calls 1302.00.

Flop (4410.00) 5 T 5
 SB bets 2355.00, MP raises to 6000.00

Based on the image I have of him so far, calling my 3b doesn't narrow his range too much but after raising my cbet, what range can i be putting him on? Obv as I'm posting it here you can guess I didn't win the hand but I'd appreciate comments on his potential range and what you would do.
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 08:42:49 PM »

You don't just find yourself in these positions, you chose to 3-bet the cl oop with a marginal hand. Don't really think that's the best strat at this table, or at any other table actually. It's a very easy flop for the active cl to raise your lead. Maybe you want to be c-raising instead on this board.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 09:10:45 PM »

Blinds 150/300 (50 ante)
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 09:15:29 PM »

Confused cos this hand isn't from 2006
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 09:40:32 PM »

Agreed Mantis, did get myself in that spot, not just find it! George, sorry, what particulary are you referring to?
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 10:25:26 PM »

dont worry - lots of bumped threads recently - thats what george meant

fixing this leak dramatically improved my game - i used to do this alot



As for the hand itself - if he has been active the i like your weak lead to jam............. if thats what you did

I think he has an under pair to your 10. I think any overpair gets em in pre (possibly not JJ), or the only hand that beats you is AT. Given the spot you are in I jam and look to bink

but yeah - dont get yourself there in the first place
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 10:28:24 PM »

tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 11:02:45 PM »

tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good.

Check stack sizes.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 01:19:24 AM »

tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good.

Check stack sizes.

lol

thought stacks were 10* what they are obv. Flip a coin, mainly dont 3bet oop this shallow and dont be bet folding the top of your range. Probably just go with it coz ppl do dumb shit, u have top pair in a 3b pot and u have the type of name that implies you run good.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 10:44:38 AM »

just flat pre and c/c flop. As played i dunno, but doubt i would be folding, probs jam now.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 10:46:17 AM »

tough spot, think uv played it fine thus far. need at least some kinda read on villain and his tendencies. If hes run of the mill, its a fold. If hes out of line/tricky, call then CRAI a non-diamond turn looks good.

Check stack sizes.

lol

thought stacks were 10* what they are obv. Flip a coin, mainly dont 3bet oop this shallow and dont be bet folding the top of your range. Probably just go with it coz ppl do dumb shit, u have top pair in a 3b pot and u have the type of name that implies you run good.

dude he has 17k at 150/300
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 07:16:29 PM »


As for the hand itself - if he has been active the i like your weak lead to jam............. if thats what you did

I think he has an under pair to your 10. I think any overpair gets em in pre (possibly not JJ), or the only hand that beats you is AT. Given the spot you are in I jam and look to bink

but yeah - dont get yourself there in the first place

Thanks for comments guys. Guy, you've pretty much read the way i played it. When he calls pre I was thinking AJ,A10,AQ type hands or mid pairs. When he repops I narrow him to maybe fd or mid pair not wanting to see another card, or complete air trying to push me off a weak lead. I jammed and he shows  lol!

Not results orientated here as I can never put him on a 5 but more the way I played pre and getting myself into that spot was the advice i was looking for.


Thanks again!!
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