9man SNG AKs UTG early...

[MC]

Just watched a Cardrunners video on 9man SNGs (regular speed)

7-handed the instructor 'dirty.brasil' raises 3x UTG at 15/30, with 1530 chips, holding AKs. It folds round to the button, with 2005 chips, who 3bets to 240. No reads.

It folds to us. He advocates folding as calling out of position here is bad. Personally I'm shoving here all day long, is this wrong? Is folding really an option here? And is it really the best option?

[vegaslover]

If he's advocating folding, then I can't see much point in him raising to begin with. My as well raise with atc if he's folding to the re-raise

[gatso]

I don't get it. was there no more explanation?

[bolt pp]

I don't get it. was there no more explanation?

it's suited, what more do you need to know?

[MC]

I don't get it. was there no more explanation?

I know man, his full comment on the hand:

"Easy open with AKs...once he 3-bets here there's nothing we can really do but fold. We can't flat call, because that's a pretty big chunk of our stack. We're gonna have to fold 2/3 of the time on the flop. Even if we do hit an Ace or a King, he's in position, so if he has a hand like QQ or JJ, he can get out pretty cheaply..."

[TightEnd]

but his comment says nothing about shoving...surely the LP 3 bettor has a wider range than something which crushes AK only?

[Longy]

Sounds pretty standard to me, this is my play here in a 9man.

[MC]

Sounds pretty standard to me, this is my play here in a 9man.

This is what I was wondering man, whether this might be standard.

You only get it in with QQ/KK/AA in this spot?

[Longy]

Sounds pretty standard to me, this is my play here in a 9man.

This is what I was wondering man, whether this might be standard.

You only get it in with QQ/KK/AA in this spot?

Pretty much you can fold qq to some regs. Very few people in 9 mans are 3 betting aq here and given it is a decently sized 3bet we can assume villian has some idea. If AQ is not in villians range getting it in here in a 9man is terrible.

[MC]

Sounds pretty standard to me, this is my play here in a 9man.

This is what I was wondering man, whether this might be standard.

You only get it in with QQ/KK/AA in this spot?

Pretty much you can fold qq to some regs. Very few people in 9 mans are 3 betting aq here and given it is a decently sized 3bet we can assume villian has some idea. If AQ is not in villians range getting it in here in a 9man is terrible.

This sounds fair.

However he does says he doesn't recognise anyone at the tables at the beginning of the video. Against a random, things change? He doesn't use an HUD and this would be a good example of where it might help...

[Longy]

Sounds pretty standard to me, this is my play here in a 9man.

This is what I was wondering man, whether this might be standard.

You only get it in with QQ/KK/AA in this spot?

Pretty much you can fold qq to some regs. Very few people in 9 mans are 3 betting aq here and given it is a decently sized 3bet we can assume villian has some idea. If AQ is not in villians range getting it in here in a 9man is terrible.

This sounds fair.

However he does says he doesn't recognise anyone at the tables at the beginning of the video. Against a random, things change? He doesn't use an HUD and this would be a good example of where it might help...

I now treat an unknown at 9man to be tight especially in the early stages and therefore reason that they won't stack off or even 3bet aq here. I do use a HUD though so can normally get my read from there.

[gatso]

against a random I want to get all in here 7 handed. or at least I thought I did a couple of hours ago

I'm happy with the fold against a good reg

[MANTIS01]

I would jam

[action man]

If he's advocating folding, then I can't see much point in him raising to begin with. My as well raise with atc if he's folding to the re-raise

this is wrong though because AKs flops well when we get flatted.

[titaniumbean]

If you're playing this professionally and multi tabling you just have to fold. I hate sngs for this very sort of reason.