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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 10:10:04 PM »

image is prob solid-ish for the first spot,
so he'd backraised to 3300, i opted for the 4bet w my 99, made it 11k & he pushed all-in for another 14k or so.
obv i wasn't passing, he had kk, i hit trips.
i think the fact i knew he'd limped blind just skewed the situation, i would def just call the back-raise otherwise w position.

for the second hand i'd lost a +100k pot w aa v quad like 30 mins earlier, so i guess i could be viewed as vulnerable to spew.
i called,
flop was a,k,5, 2 clubs & he led out for a pot sized 14k, i'm sitting on 70k, gulp
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 10:22:56 PM »

golden.

hand 2. situation where the grossest play in poker is the best. call, probs call most turns too.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2009, 10:37:25 PM »

I got as far as backraise...
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2009, 11:09:20 PM »


so he'd backraised to 3300,

 i hit trips.


we def need that glossary

99 in hand and 9 on board = a set - btw did it come on the flop?
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2009, 11:28:56 PM »


so he'd backraised to 3300,

 i hit trips.


we def need that glossary

99 in hand and 9 on board = a set - btw did it come on the flop?

I read the phrase, 'a set of trips' in a book earlier and was like wtf.

Hate backraise too   Tongue

Cant fault getting the 99 in one bit if you're sure he didn't look before limping.



I call flop in hand two because I have top pair.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2009, 12:22:26 AM »

The problem with calling that A-10 type hand is that we hit but don't like it. Makes you wonder if calling is good. I can't see any case for folding after calling pre so would call villain's bet. Also you could hit a J and a Q to make a run.
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2009, 12:30:56 AM »

The problem with calling that A-10 type hand is that we hit but don't like it. Makes you wonder if calling is good. I can't see any case for folding after calling pre so would call villain's bet. Also you could hit a J and a Q to make a run.

I'm more than happy calling one bet. lets play some turns/rivers/have some reads.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2009, 12:50:01 AM »

The problem with calling that A-10 type hand is that we hit but don't like it. Makes you wonder if calling is good. I can't see any case for folding after calling pre so would call villain's bet. Also you could hit a J and a Q to make a run.

 

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not quite the same - but was playing a 5 re buy last night and the bloke next to me asked how many 'lives' id used. I had to leave the table to stiffle my laughter
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2009, 08:01:55 AM »

The problem with calling that A-10 type hand is that we hit but don't like it. Makes you wonder if calling is good. I can't see any case for folding after calling pre so would call villain's bet. Also you could hit a J and a Q to make a run.

now we're talkin
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2009, 09:21:48 AM »

I hope everytime you all write backraise you have a Wadey right arm sticking out?
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2009, 09:29:46 AM »

I hope everytime you all write backraise you have a Wadey right arm sticking out?

*elbow in your arm repeatedly* "Did you see that shit he backraised me with boud? I fookin' knew he had shit, I fookin' knew it"

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2009, 11:31:18 AM »

there both folds imo. Hand 1 your oppo is too shallow to set mine. Vs some oppo's you can set mine here but not against somone who is gonna fire 100% of flops and leave you guessing. Hand 2 is tough, if you think you can read him well and sometimes bluff him off a flop he didnt connect with then i suppose a call is just about OK. without history of him 3betting then i would fold.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2009, 11:42:25 AM »

The problem with folding hand 1 is that because you're switched on and notice things at the table you see that villain doesn't look and that sort of thing is your edge. So when he 3-bets it looks like a move. If you fold now because he's put some heat on with a completely random hand it seems pretty pointless staying awake to notice that kind of stuff. It would seem at the time that he's limping to 3-bet and you've seen that so what can you do. If he is making a move he is surely betting 100% of flops which makes the hand tricky to play imo. I still like the 4-bet pre.
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2009, 12:12:42 PM »

but he looked at his cards before he 3bet to 3300, fair enough we noticed he limped the 300 blind, but now the situation is the same as if he would have looked at his cards and opened with a raise.
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2009, 12:44:56 PM »

If he knows his hand when he completes and then 3-bets he looks pretty strong imo. If he pretended to look, limps, and then 3-bets he will think he looks like this pretty strong hand to us, especially if we didn't spot he limped blind. So what you said about folding makes sense and his move is a good one. I don't know why someone completes blind if they aren't thinking funky thoughts. I figured limping blind set up the potential for this move and didn't figure he limps blind only to check his hand and find gold. I would find it hard to accept his 3-bet is a genuine big pair that has me beat at the time hence liking the 4-bet.
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