A(nother) good reason not to tip

[Pyso]

Er.... why do we all feel like we are supposed to tip the dealer?

Because Americans tell us so.

Tipping is very negative EV. I am already getting raped by the rake and don't feel great about paying tax twice.

Having said that, I will tip if the size of the pot warrants it and if the dealer has been professional and pleasant company.

I won't tip if the dealer is crap, the pot is small, or I won't tip especially if I feel I'm being made to feel mean, whether by the dealer or other players. A tip is a gift and the time to give a gift is when you want to, not when someone tells you to.

[bolt pp]

the mere act of posting is inviting replies

yeah but he doesnt say: "is this right?" or even "how bang out of order is this?"

he makes a point of saying how disgusted he was at the time but didnt say anything

yup, and I don't have a problem with that..as someone who has done similar on occasion, and spoken up on others.

You do, and I don't mind you having a problem with it  

do you have a problem with me having a problem with the world's current financial problems?

[TightEnd]

the mere act of posting is inviting replies

yeah but he doesnt say: "is this right?" or even "how bang out of order is this?"

he makes a point of saying how disgusted he was at the time but didnt say anything

yup, and I don't have a problem with that..as someone who has done similar on occasion, and spoken up on others.

You do, and I don't mind you having a problem with it  

do you have a problem with me having a problem with the world's current financial problems?

No. Wouldn't tip the World's bankers though

[RED-DOG]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

I don't think most people on here would translate it like that.

[Jamier-Host]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

Perhaps the way i explained it wasn't the best.

It is true though that i didn't particularly want to get involved in an argument over the poker table.  Also i didn't want to alert the chap to the fact that i knew anything about poker, seeing as i had a nice image of being a fairly anonymous casino chump that i was hoping to exploit 

I recognised the dealer as he's been working in London for a long while so i'm sure there will be a time and a place for having a quiet word.  He probably just didn't realise it was bad form, so no point creating a bad atmosphere when it generally pays to keep things friendly while playing.

TightEnd is right though - clearly i was posting to gauge the general opinion on the matter.

[bolt pp]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

I don't think most people on here would translate it like that.

lol EXACTLY!!!!!!!

[tikay]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

Perhaps the way i explained it wasn't the best.

It is true though that i didn't particularly want to get involved in an argument over the poker table.  Also i didn't want to alert the chap to the fact that i knew anything about poker, seeing as i had a nice image of being a fairly anonymous casino chump that i was hoping to exploit 

I recognised the dealer as he's been working in London for a long while so i'm sure there will be a time and a place for having a quiet word.  He probably just didn't realise it was bad form, so no point creating a bad atmosphere when it generally pays to keep things friendly while playing.

TightEnd is right though - clearly i was posting to gauge the general opinion on the matter.

And that's why we have Poker Forums. It's not as if you named & shamed the guy.

[mondatoo]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

Perhaps the way i explained it wasn't the best.

It is true though that i didn't particularly want to get involved in an argument over the poker table.  Also i didn't want to alert the chap to the fact that i knew anything about poker, seeing as i had a nice image of being a fairly anonymous casino chump that i was hoping to exploit  

I recognised the dealer as he's been working in London for a long while so i'm sure there will be a time and a place for having a quiet word.  He probably just didn't realise it was bad form, so no point creating a bad atmosphere when it generally pays to keep things friendly while playing.

TightEnd is right though - clearly i was posting to gauge the general opinion on the matter.

And that's why we have Poker Forums. It's not as if you named & shamed the guy.

Tbf to Bolt i think he just idolises you and wants to be just like you but didn't realise the situation was different to the type that you normally frown upon since no names where mentioned so it wasn't personal and now he's too embarrassed to admit to this so is just carrying on with his point to keep his male pride,imo  

[Royal Flush]

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

Errm doesnt sound much the Jamie i know!

[RED-DOG]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

I don't think most people on here would translate it like that.

lol EXACTLY!!!!!!!

I may be a bit dim, (Strike that, I am a bit dim) but I don't see the point you are making

[MANTIS01]

the amount of times ive seen posts on here where someone tells a story where they didnt say anything at the time "because they dont want to cause an argument" (lol sure is the reason)

of course it's the reason, and pretty sensible it is too in an era where people have no problem with starting rucks in card-rooms

The problem I have is nothing about this normal everyday situation suggests things are going to descend into violence anytime soon. So you should have the confidence to speak and interact in real life if something bothers you. I think we should accept normally talking with other people isn't going to get you shanked by some random in the casino. So I think Bolt is right when he highlights the contrast in size between internet balls and real life balls. No life interaction is bad imo. Also the trouble is when you play the pokers you need the big balls. So people should just speak if they have something to say, do it with tact, because they will be playing better poker already.

[StuartHopkin]

Can someone explain to me why a tip is expected?

[bolt pp]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

I don't think most people on here would translate it like that.

lol EXACTLY!!!!!!!

I may be a bit dim, (Strike that, I am a bit dim) but I don't see the point you are making

i cant really be arsed to explain it so lets just say i'm mixing it up a bit from "lol ok"

[bolt pp]

Can someone explain to me why a tip is expected?

hi m8

i was  typing into google :"why is a tip important"  when i got as far as: "why is a t" google populated a list of possibilites and i picked this one instead:


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=why+is+a+tie+in+tic+tac+toe+called+cat&meta=&aq=3&oq=why+is+a+ti

hope this helps

[RED-DOG]

I would agree if the individual was being named, after all he has no right of reply unless he happens across the forum and the thread.

but if a poster is talking about a situation where unnamed person has done such and such and the poster writes on a subject, I think its fine. In such situations I don't think the poster is "running his mouth"

It was just this bit i was talking about really........

I bit my lip to avoid an argument, but was pretty disgusted

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

translates as: "shit myself from saying anything but couldnt wait to get on the internet to moan about it"

I don't think most people on here would translate it like that.

lol EXACTLY!!!!!!!

I may be a bit dim, (Strike that, I am a bit dim) but I don't see the point you are making

i cant really be arsed to explain it so lets just say i'm mixing it up a bit from "lol ok"

i cant really be arsed to explain it so lets just say i'm mixing it up a bit from "lol ok"

Anyone fancy taking a stab at translating this..... ?