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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2009, 03:20:04 PM » |
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From Robert's rules of poker. . Your hand is declared dead if:
(a) You fold or announce that you are folding when facing a bet or a raise .
(b) You throw your hand away in a forward motion causing another player to act behind you (even if not facing a bet ).
I would say that whilst he probably meant to call, his action falls within (b) hence his hand is dead. Plus to allow him to call would open you up to future angle shooting. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2009, 03:23:19 PM » |
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[ ] they use roberts rules at napoleons
[ ] roberts rules are widely adhered too in full
my answer was going to be it depends on whch 2 players were trying to collude with one another (assuming this is leeds Naps)!
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2009, 03:57:14 PM » |
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Dealer should of grabbed his cards mucked them then get them back out of the muck and throw them at the player Chris Ferguson style!
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2009, 04:06:38 PM » |
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the ruling is cf should stop playing at places he hates and thinks are shite
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2009, 04:13:41 PM » |
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the ruling is cf should stop playing at places he hates and thinks are shite
lol, when have i said that? it's the first time i've even played there. my review wasn't overly negative.. |
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2009, 04:17:25 PM » |
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the ruling is cf should stop playing at places he hates and thinks are shite
lol, when have i said that? it's the first time i've even played there. my review wasn't overly negative.. CF should move to Nottingham IMO! |
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2009, 12:05:19 AM » |
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if he doesnt announce it or put the chips in then his hand is folded when he exposed it
This + give him a slap for angle shooting. No reason at all to think he's angle shooting here. Just looks like he made a mistake. Barring a specific house rule about not exposing your cards he still has the option to call. Maybe a slap a bit harsh but once the cards have gone over without him anouncing a call then the cards should be dead. If his hand was losing do you think he would still have said that he was going to call??? I don't know him but would very much doubt it. By giving him the benefit of the doubt you are penalising the other player, is this fair??? |
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Ah! The element of surprise
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2009, 12:20:52 AM » |
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Player A deserves to lose the pot for being an idiot. But I'm loathe to award it to player B who bluffs 400 more into this pot with 10-high. I think the pot should be split between any players at the table not behaving like an idiot.
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2009, 12:42:29 AM » |
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It's a clear fold if he hasn't announced an intention to call. While you can cry foul because he "is never passing a Jack here.", their are potentially thousands of different possible hands that can all end up in this same situation and it's not for us to determine what your play is. If you don't announce call, then you've folded. Tough luck, really. I bet you'll remember the next time.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2009, 02:19:23 AM » |
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how is the hand ever ruled dead here?
both hands are live and A has the option to call or pass it is, just about, possible for it to be ruled a fold if the dealer thinks it was the players inention to pass. however it quite clearly wasn't as no-one ever passes a jack here
depending on the house rules (whether or not you are allowed to expose cards) A may also get a penalty after the hand
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2009, 02:37:38 AM » |
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lifetime ban imo. treason mofos shud be hanged .
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2009, 08:52:30 AM » |
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both hands are live and A has the option to call or pass it is, just about, possible for it to be ruled a fold if the dealer thinks it was the players inention to pass. however it quite clearly wasn't as no-one ever passes a jack here
What next, the dealer simply plays our cards for us whilst we have a beer and a smoke outside? |
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