This thread has been great. Was going to post my views on QT and Griffin but how can i when i'm still smiling at the fact The Camel crunched his son and just comes out with "it was a 50:50 ball and i probably wouldn't have been booked for it"
it probably has:
We have all agreed that Griffin is an arse
We are divided as to whether the QT programme actually served any purpose
We have been lectured and it has been assumed, that most of us are stupid and cannot think for ourselves because some things that are acceptable to some, others cannot abide
We are divided in what is free speech and what is acceptable as ones thoughts.
We have had much retoric by the "I'm so clever" mob who would do more good by getting off their arses and actually doing something about it than spouting off on a forum.
But, I ask you, will they? the answer more than likely is no. They are the people who are happy to let others mucky their hands, and when it works, take the credit. This is because the people who really do care and do put the effort in are reluctant to take credit.
When it doesn't, they are more than quick to put the blame at someone elses door. The poor unfortunate, who tried to do something about it, gets it in the neck and and the spouters cower to avoid the flack.
Ask me about it, I've seen it and done it. I served my country for 23 years, along with minorities whether it be sexual or race along with every other minority you can mention.
I say that not in a derogatory fashion but because that is what they were. They were accepted for what they were and, very much against what the public perception was/is the soldiers took them unto the fold because they could see beyond the civvi mentality.
The only thing we were interested in was whether they could do their job or not, I can assure you there were more non gays and whites (I know some will go for the statistics side of things) hounded out the Army because they couldn't cut the mustard as opposed to their sexuality or race.
The outrage currently running through the soldiers is in regards to the connection that the BNP are trying to purvey is massive. Again they are trying to play on the "your government is not doing enough for you" ticket. Whilst the soldiers may well feel that they are not being givien the support from the government, i can assure you they are not stupid enuff to think that the BNP is the way ahead.
I suppose what I'm asking here is not to confine your views to this forum, get up and do something about it. Whether it is merely giving your vote to one of the other parties (I couldn't care less which, it's a vote against the BNP) or whether it's a manual thing, signing protests etc.
we can debate all we like, however unless we take action, we can only blame ourselves when nothing changes.
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