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« on: October 26, 2009, 06:03:35 PM »

£75 205 runner MTT live

Final four players

Payouts

3500 (plus a GUKPT Champ of Champs seat, undealable)
2250
1250
600

Stacks

UTG Hero 500k

Button Villain 550k

Small blind 350k

Big blind 600k

blinds are 8-16k with 1500 ante about to go 10-20k

UTG raises to 45k with

Button, pushes all in. Most aggressive player at the table, unknown to you before the final. Hasn't had to show much but suspicion is he is "at it" more than his competitors

Blinds fold

UTG is the most experienced player, with the best overall game, and has never been in danger throughout the comp


Call, or Wait?
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 06:05:27 PM »

Raise less in the first place.

Fold now. Even if we think he's "at it" we're not usually miles ahead, and if he's got better then us we're likely dominated.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 07:58:47 PM »

I think it depends on hero's image to an extent. But villain must figure his move carries bags of FE and he knows a good player doesn't need much to be raising UTG 4-handed. If the other 2 are weak/tight maybe fold. But if they are regular I would snap because how much play is left in this game? A decent opportunity to get your chips in vs some LAG with a-rag and win the game imo.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 08:36:23 PM »

purely dependant on how things have been going at the table, image etc but a big ace is hard to raise/fold 4 handed
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 08:39:57 PM »

raise to 38k pre then fold hard to fold Aj 4 handed but you will get better spots
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 08:54:58 PM »

lol @ anyone folding here.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 08:57:55 PM »

lol @ anyone folding here.

Meh, this is a live APAT tourney peoples reshipping ranges are probs pretty tight. I would call but i am not loving it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2009, 09:14:48 PM »


How much is the seat worth?  It might skew me towards calling if it makes 1st prize top heavy.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 12:28:00 AM »

I would fold here. You still have plenty of chips. I think the button prob has you dominated. I dont think he will risk his tournament here with less thanAK.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 01:48:09 AM »

i would call, its 4 handed.

And you have a read that he is "at it".
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 01:51:05 AM »

with 25bb at the next level, against 3 others that are weaker than you, calling is bad. I fold here pretty fast.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 02:02:14 AM »

Yeah i'm just mucking it without alot of thought/concern.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 01:25:01 PM »

Stacks probably just too big to make the call comfortable.  If you were both sat with 250K then it would probably be instacall.  I don't really like calling or folding, so is probably pretty borderline, and I may well wait if the table is weak.  I also assume the players reraising ranges here are much tighter than a stars donkament.  Think I have persuaded myself this is an easy fold, unless he has done this to me a lot. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 03:56:21 PM »

Fold

You've asked the question UTG, now take the answer, stacks still OK, wait for a better chance
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 04:05:02 PM »

folding everytime...
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