ruling please

[geordieneil]

i know different casino's have different"house rules" but could u advise if the decision given was correct.
   2 players called the big blind and the dealer thought the bb checked and started to deal the flop exposing 2 cards when i stopped him.
  i know if one card is exposed u use the 3rd from the bottom of the deck and the exposed card is mucked.
   my understanding if 2 or 3 are exposed u give the option of the bb to check or raise and if he is in the pot the cards exposed are put back in to the deck and re-shuffled.
   can anyone confrim this or help in any other way.
    kind regards   geordieneil

[gatso]

i know if one card is exposed u use the 3rd from the bottom of the deck

please never, ever do this. thx

[Ironside]

i know different casino's have different"house rules" but could u advise if the decision given was correct.
   2 players called the big blind and the dealer thought the bb checked and started to deal the flop exposing 2 cards when i stopped him.
  i know if one card is exposed u use the 3rd from the bottom of the deck and the exposed card is mucked.
   my understanding if 2 or 3 are exposed u give the option of the bb to check or raise and if he is in the pot the cards exposed are put back in to the deck and re-shuffled.
   can anyone confrim this or help in any other way.
    kind regards   geordieneil

if no action has taken place after a flop has been dealt or partially dealt and there is still action on the bb then all cards not dealt to plaers should be shuffled back into deck and then the action should be restarted with the bbs option

[geordieneil]

i know different casino's have different"house rules" but could u advise if the decision given was correct.
   2 players called the big blind and the dealer thought the bb checked and started to deal the flop exposing 2 cards when i stopped him.
  i know if one card is exposed u use the 3rd from the bottom of the deck and the exposed card is mucked.
   my understanding if 2 or 3 are exposed u give the option of the bb to check or raise and if he is in the pot the cards exposed are put back in to the deck and re-shuffled.
   can anyone confrim this or help in any other way.
    kind regards   geordieneil

if no action has taken place after a flop has been dealt or partially dealt and there is still action on the bb then all cards not dealt to plaers should be shuffled back into deck and then the action should be restarted with the bbs option

tnx mate this is pretty much what i thought, but some casinos with 1 exposed insist on the 3rd from the bottom which i dont like, but house rules are house rules, some governing body make an official set of rules ffs, its the most played game in the world and we still have these disscusions lol

[Cf]

i know different casino's have different"house rules" but could u advise if the decision given was correct.
   2 players called the big blind and the dealer thought the bb checked and started to deal the flop exposing 2 cards when i stopped him.
  i know if one card is exposed u use the 3rd from the bottom of the deck and the exposed card is mucked.
   my understanding if 2 or 3 are exposed u give the option of the bb to check or raise and if he is in the pot the cards exposed are put back in to the deck and re-shuffled.
   can anyone confrim this or help in any other way.
    kind regards   geordieneil

if no action has taken place after a flop has been dealt or partially dealt and there is still action on the bb then all cards not dealt to plaers should be shuffled back into deck and then the action should be restarted with the bbs option

tnx mate this is pretty much what i thought, but some casinos with 1 exposed insist on the 3rd from the bottom which i dont like, but house rules are house rules, some governing body make an official set of rules ffs, its the most played game in the world and we still have these disscusions lol

Robert's Rules
TDA Rules

Just tell your casino to use one or both of these.

[StuartHopkin]

Should they not deal the rest of the board face down before reshuffling the exposed cards with the remaining deck to preserve as much of the correct board as possible?

3rd from the bottom lol, i would walk out of any cardroom that thought this was correct

[Ironside]

Should they not deal the rest of the board face down before reshuffling the exposed cards with the remaining deck to preserve as much of the correct board as possible?

3rd from the bottom lol, i would walk out of any cardroom that thought this was correct

i have heard that before but i dont see the point the cards are still going to be random either way

[StuartHopkin]

Should they not deal the rest of the board face down before reshuffling the exposed cards with the remaining deck to preserve as much of the correct board as possible?

3rd from the bottom lol, i would walk out of any cardroom that thought this was correct

i have heard that before but i dont see the point the cards are still going to be random either way

but the actual turn and river and burn cards are still there and correct, therefore it is possible to leave them out of the reshuffled flop, which in a way is better because they had no chance of being on the flop the first time?

im not too sure to be honest iron, but i think thats what i would do to try and keep the board as close to what it should have been as possible

[gatso]

the problem with that is that if the 2 cards don't appear on the new flop we now know 100% that neither will appear on turn or river which could have a huge effect on the play

[Ironside]

good point gatso i hadnt thought of that so thats a good reason for not protecting the board

[BulldozerD]

lol at 3rd card from the bottom

why not just get a valet to pick a card at random, that would be more fun

[Cf]

Should they not deal the rest of the board face down before reshuffling the exposed cards with the remaining deck to preserve as much of the correct board as possible?

3rd from the bottom lol, i would walk out of any cardroom that thought this was correct

i have heard that before but i dont see the point the cards are still going to be random either way

but the actual turn and river and burn cards are still there and correct, therefore it is possible to leave them out of the reshuffled flop, which in a way is better because they had no chance of being on the flop the first time?

im not too sure to be honest iron, but i think thats what i would do to try and keep the board as close to what it should have been as possible

Robert's Rules state that if the flop is wrong then reshuffle the whole thing.

They state if there's a problem with the turn then deal the last burn card and river card.

They also state at the bottom that he doesn't like that rule and it's there mainly for historical reasons. He suggests always reshuffling the entire deck when something like this happens so that all cards have an equal chance of occuring.

Me personally: who cares what order the cards are in? There's no sacred order to them. It's a random card from a deck.

[gatso]

nana, would robert be on the guestlist for your fantasy dinner party?

[StuartHopkin]

I like Gatso's point for reshuffling the whole deck

I dont like Cf's point about not caring about the order of the cards, every little change to the card order changes the whole world.