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« on: November 08, 2009, 01:17:21 PM »

I got a phone-call from the HSBC fraud department today, and it turns out someone has used my Credit Card numerous times on my Victor Chandler account this morning. I haven't used it for several months so I insta knew it was dodgy.

How the bloody hell they got into it I don't know, because I couldn't even remember my own log-in details to check it out on the software and had to go through the "forgot password" malarkey.

I shouldn't lose any money because it's covered by Mastercard, but what precautions do you think I should take? Change all my passwords?...
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2009, 01:43:01 PM »

I got a phone-call from the HSBC fraud department today, and it turns out someone has used my Credit Card numerous times on my Victor Chandler account this morning. I haven't used it for several months so I insta knew it was dodgy.

How the bloody hell they got into it I don't know, because I couldn't even remember my own log-in details to check it out on the software and had to go through the "forgot password" malarkey.

I shouldn't lose any money because it's covered by Mastercard, but what precautions do you think I should take? Change all my passwords?...

Geez it is scary how common this shit is becoming. I will let the experts chime in, with what to do as I am completely clueless as people found out earlier in the week.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 01:44:29 PM »

I got a phone-call from the HSBC fraud department today, and it turns out someone has used my Credit Card numerous times on my Victor Chandler account this morning. I haven't used it for several months so I insta knew it was dodgy.

How the bloody hell they got into it I don't know, because I couldn't even remember my own log-in details to check it out on the software and had to go through the "forgot password" malarkey.

I shouldn't lose any money because it's covered by Mastercard, but what precautions do you think I should take? Change all my passwords?...

Geez it is scary how common this shit is becoming. I will let the experts chime in, with what to do as I am completely clueless as people found out earlier in the week.

Yeah man the fact something similar happened to you earlier in the week is weird. Do you reckon moon&back is a hacker of some sort lol Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 01:47:41 PM »

if you do a chargeback i heard you get put on some blacklist and poker sites hate you/don't want your business. nonsense?

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 01:49:38 PM »

Maybe they got your details through your email?

I doubt it would be that hard for a hacker to get a list of email addresses associated with accounts on a poker site.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 01:54:40 PM »

Yeah man the fact something similar happened to you earlier in the week is weird. Do you reckon moon&back is a hacker of some sort lol Tongue

lolz, wp moon&back

someone should check his attack vectors and stuff
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 01:56:40 PM »

i remember a few years back, just before blonde was launched, i was chat banned and banned from a forum of a site after telling people how easy it is to break security on most poker sites. its even easier now than it was then.

the site i got banned from and chat banned is no longer in buisness but it had nothing to do with there sercurity only due to the fact there wasnt anyone with any serious money on there worth stealing
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 02:03:25 PM »

With both Longy and MC being hacked in some way, I'm wondering if these hackers are trawling forums looking for targets and getting info based off their usernames on certain sites, for example reading the prop bet thread and then searching OPR/Sharkscope to see if people are worth hacking.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 02:09:24 PM »

With both Longy and MC being hacked in some way, I'm wondering if these hackers are trawling forums looking for targets and getting info based off their usernames on certain sites, for example reading the prop bet thread and then searching OPR/Sharkscope to see if people are worth hacking.
Was thinking the same. Could easily be a forum member imo. MC is your public email on here linked to any of your accs? Or a visible one on FB inc d.o.b etc?
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 02:11:08 PM »

I could see people using this as an argument for banning of all tracking sites PLUS ability to change usernames regularly.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 02:18:18 PM »

I could see people using this as an argument for banning of all tracking sites PLUS ability to change usernames regularly.

If your username is different to your display name then you shouldn't really need to change your username at all.

2 factor auth (ie the RSA dongles) makes it pretty hard to just harvest log in details anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 02:28:56 PM »

With both Longy and MC being hacked in some way, I'm wondering if these hackers are trawling forums looking for targets and getting info based off their usernames on certain sites, for example reading the prop bet thread and then searching OPR/Sharkscope to see if people are worth hacking.
Was thinking the same. Could easily be a forum member imo. MC is your public email on here linked to any of your accs? Or a visible one on FB inc d.o.b etc?

Yes, in theory it is. Good point.

But I don't see any evidence that my email has been hacked. And my username is different on VC than anything else.

It's all a bit confusing tbh. The money they deposited apparently wasn't spent in poker so they weren't chip dumping, so I don't see the benefit of what they did because they could never withdraw?...
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 02:33:01 PM »

If this is a card u already had regisitered at VC is it not possible that it may be some sort of glitch at their end similar to what happend to a few people with Stars?

Really can't see the benefit of anyone using ur card to deposit in your account.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 02:36:19 PM »

If this is a card u already had regisitered at VC is it not possible that it may be some sort of glitch at their end similar to what happend to a few people with Stars?

Really can't see the benefit of anyone using ur card to deposit in your account.

Yeah that's how they've done it I assume, I guess it was saved

Def can't be a glitch. This was numerous transactions, all of different amounts. Totalling like £1500, and they got a bunch declined when they maxed out, one that they got through was £5. Sounds like degen depositing to me.
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 02:38:09 PM »

They could deposit, leave the account for a few weeks/months and then return later to chip dump. This might lead to a higher success rate as a charge back is likely to be made as soon as the card holder notices so those left dormant for a while are likely to actually let them get their hands on the cash.
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