Scotland's Shame thread

[Boba Fett]

if they started in league 2 they might make the play offs...

For comments like this can you explain why in the last few years some Rangers rejects have been ripping up the Championship?

I have to disagree with this mate, they ain't rangers rejects, they were 1st team regulars that rangers didn't want to sell, but were forced to due to the Banks calling. Hence the reason they are ripping up as you put it

Oh Really?
Chris Burke - Played less than 50% of games for Rangers in his last 3 years.  Thought so highly of him he was let go for nothing although to be fair he had injury problems at Rangers and I rated him when he was actually fit for a prolonged period.
Charlie Adam - Played maybe 1 in 3 or 4 games under Smith, Rangers were practically desperate to get him out the door for the last year but he dug his heels in before finally leaving.
Gavin Rae - Constantly injured at Rangers, most people forget he was even here and nobody misses him.
Alan Gow - Has made 1 appearance for Rangers in 2 years despite being fully fit and was extremely impressive when on loan in the championship last year
Ross McCormack - Never broke through to the 1st team and was given away to Motherwell, scored as a sub in the champions leage away to Porto a few years ago, 2 weeks later shipped out on loan to Doncaster
Steven MacLean - Been injured this season I think but he scored a good few in the 2 seasons before that.

How can you seriously say these guys were 1st team regulars and Rangers didnt want to sell them?  And, except for Adam, they were all sold in the last 2 or 3 years so I doubt the banks were forcing us to sell these guys, we barely made a penny from them anyway.

As for the banks comment, who has been sold due to pressure from the bank??  I can think of 3 players in the last 5 years that MIGHT have been forced out the door due to the size of the transfer fee(I know 1 was for sure) but I seriously doubt the banks were banging on the door telling Rangers to start inviting bids for players so who was sold unwillingly by Rangers to appease the bank?

[Scottish Dave]

if they started in league 2 they might make the play offs...

For comments like this can you explain why in the last few years some Rangers rejects have been ripping up the Championship?

I have to disagree with this mate, they ain't rangers rejects, they were 1st team regulars that rangers didn't want to sell, but were forced to due to the Banks calling. Hence the reason they are ripping up as you put it

Oh Really?
Chris Burke - Played less than 50% of games for Rangers in his last 3 years.  Thought so highly of him he was let go for nothing although to be fair he had injury problems at Rangers and I rated him when he was actually fit for a prolonged period.
Charlie Adam - Played maybe 1 in 3 or 4 games under Smith, Rangers were practically desperate to get him out the door for the last year but he dug his heels in before finally leaving.
Gavin Rae - Constantly injured at Rangers, most people forget he was even here and nobody misses him.
Alan Gow - Has made 1 appearance for Rangers in 2 years despite being fully fit and was extremely impressive when on loan in the championship last year
Ross McCormack - Never broke through to the 1st team and was given away to Motherwell, scored as a sub in the champions leage away to Porto a few years ago, 2 weeks later shipped out on loan to Doncaster
Steven MacLean - Been injured this season I think but he scored a good few in the 2 seasons before that.

How can you seriously say these guys were 1st team regulars and Rangers didnt want to sell them?  And, except for Adam, they were all sold in the last 2 or 3 years so I doubt the banks were forcing us to sell these guys, we barely made a penny from them anyway.

As for the banks comment, who has been sold due to pressure from the bank??  I can think of 3 players in the last 5 years that MIGHT have been forced out the door due to the size of the transfer fee(I know 1 was for sure) but I seriously doubt the banks were banging on the door telling Rangers to start inviting bids for players so who was sold unwillingly by Rangers to appease the bank?

I was thinking more of Carlos Queer-hawk, Hutton, Ferguson and the constantly trying to offload Kris Boyd

[Ironside]

if they started in league 2 they might make the play offs...

For comments like this can you explain why in the last few years some Rangers rejects have been ripping up the Championship?

I have to disagree with this mate, they ain't rangers rejects, they were 1st team regulars that rangers didn't want to sell, but were forced to due to the Banks calling. Hence the reason they are ripping up as you put it

Oh Really?
Chris Burke - Played less than 50% of games for Rangers in his last 3 years.  Thought so highly of him he was let go for nothing although to be fair he had injury problems at Rangers and I rated him when he was actually fit for a prolonged period.
Charlie Adam - Played maybe 1 in 3 or 4 games under Smith, Rangers were practically desperate to get him out the door for the last year but he dug his heels in before finally leaving.
Gavin Rae - Constantly injured at Rangers, most people forget he was even here and nobody misses him.
Alan Gow - Has made 1 appearance for Rangers in 2 years despite being fully fit and was extremely impressive when on loan in the championship last year
Ross McCormack - Never broke through to the 1st team and was given away to Motherwell, scored as a sub in the champions leage away to Porto a few years ago, 2 weeks later shipped out on loan to Doncaster
Steven MacLean - Been injured this season I think but he scored a good few in the 2 seasons before that.

How can you seriously say these guys were 1st team regulars and Rangers didnt want to sell them?  And, except for Adam, they were all sold in the last 2 or 3 years so I doubt the banks were forcing us to sell these guys, we barely made a penny from them anyway.

As for the banks comment, who has been sold due to pressure from the bank??  I can think of 3 players in the last 5 years that MIGHT have been forced out the door due to the size of the transfer fee(I know 1 was for sure) but I seriously doubt the banks were banging on the door telling Rangers to start inviting bids for players so who was sold unwillingly by Rangers to appease the bank?

I was thinking more of Carlos Queer-hawk, Hutton, Ferguson and the constantly trying to offload Kris Boyd

none of them play in the championship

[Ironside]

+ ferguson was never going to fit in with walter after the incident with scotland mcgregor is only still there due to the fact he cant get better for the money he could get selling him + ferguson is well past his play by date

carlos only left due to villa meeting his release clause

[lazaroonie]

not really sure why this debate is happening, they wont be allowed in the premiership anyway...

If they managed to get in they'd get relegated (cos they're crap) and then go back to Scotland.

you sure know what you are talking about

[Scottish Dave]

if they started in league 2 they might make the play offs...

For comments like this can you explain why in the last few years some Rangers rejects have been ripping up the Championship?

I have to disagree with this mate, they ain't rangers rejects, they were 1st team regulars that rangers didn't want to sell, but were forced to due to the Banks calling. Hence the reason they are ripping up as you put it

Oh Really?
Chris Burke - Played less than 50% of games for Rangers in his last 3 years.  Thought so highly of him he was let go for nothing although to be fair he had injury problems at Rangers and I rated him when he was actually fit for a prolonged period.
Charlie Adam - Played maybe 1 in 3 or 4 games under Smith, Rangers were practically desperate to get him out the door for the last year but he dug his heels in before finally leaving.
Gavin Rae - Constantly injured at Rangers, most people forget he was even here and nobody misses him.
Alan Gow - Has made 1 appearance for Rangers in 2 years despite being fully fit and was extremely impressive when on loan in the championship last year
Ross McCormack - Never broke through to the 1st team and was given away to Motherwell, scored as a sub in the champions leage away to Porto a few years ago, 2 weeks later shipped out on loan to Doncaster
Steven MacLean - Been injured this season I think but he scored a good few in the 2 seasons before that.

How can you seriously say these guys were 1st team regulars and Rangers didnt want to sell them?  And, except for Adam, they were all sold in the last 2 or 3 years so I doubt the banks were forcing us to sell these guys, we barely made a penny from them anyway.

As for the banks comment, who has been sold due to pressure from the bank??  I can think of 3 players in the last 5 years that MIGHT have been forced out the door due to the size of the transfer fee(I know 1 was for sure) but I seriously doubt the banks were banging on the door telling Rangers to start inviting bids for players so who was sold unwillingly by Rangers to appease the bank?

I was thinking more of Carlos Queer-hawk, Hutton, Ferguson and the constantly trying to offload Kris Boyd

none of them play in the championship

whoops, boba's post was tl;dr, so i just assumed he meant anywhere in england

[Ironside]

if they started in league 2 they might make the play offs...

For comments like this can you explain why in the last few years some Rangers rejects have been ripping up the Championship?

I have to disagree with this mate, they ain't rangers rejects, they were 1st team regulars that rangers didn't want to sell, but were forced to due to the Banks calling. Hence the reason they are ripping up as you put it

Oh Really?
Chris Burke - Played less than 50% of games for Rangers in his last 3 years.  Thought so highly of him he was let go for nothing although to be fair he had injury problems at Rangers and I rated him when he was actually fit for a prolonged period.
Charlie Adam - Played maybe 1 in 3 or 4 games under Smith, Rangers were practically desperate to get him out the door for the last year but he dug his heels in before finally leaving.
Gavin Rae - Constantly injured at Rangers, most people forget he was even here and nobody misses him.
Alan Gow - Has made 1 appearance for Rangers in 2 years despite being fully fit and was extremely impressive when on loan in the championship last year
Ross McCormack - Never broke through to the 1st team and was given away to Motherwell, scored as a sub in the champions leage away to Porto a few years ago, 2 weeks later shipped out on loan to Doncaster
Steven MacLean - Been injured this season I think but he scored a good few in the 2 seasons before that.

How can you seriously say these guys were 1st team regulars and Rangers didnt want to sell them?  And, except for Adam, they were all sold in the last 2 or 3 years so I doubt the banks were forcing us to sell these guys, we barely made a penny from them anyway.

As for the banks comment, who has been sold due to pressure from the bank??  I can think of 3 players in the last 5 years that MIGHT have been forced out the door due to the size of the transfer fee(I know 1 was for sure) but I seriously doubt the banks were banging on the door telling Rangers to start inviting bids for players so who was sold unwillingly by Rangers to appease the bank?

I was thinking more of Carlos Queer-hawk, Hutton, Ferguson and the constantly trying to offload Kris Boyd

none of them play in the championship

whoops, boba's post was tl;dr, so i just assumed he meant anywhere in england

his post was half a line.

why reply to a post of half a line that you havent read with a post trying to cause a reaction

[Scottish Dave]

if they started in league 2 they might make the play offs...

For comments like this can you explain why in the last few years some Rangers rejects have been ripping up the Championship?

I have to disagree with this mate, they ain't rangers rejects, they were 1st team regulars that rangers didn't want to sell, but were forced to due to the Banks calling. Hence the reason they are ripping up as you put it

Oh Really?
Chris Burke - Played less than 50% of games for Rangers in his last 3 years.  Thought so highly of him he was let go for nothing although to be fair he had injury problems at Rangers and I rated him when he was actually fit for a prolonged period.
Charlie Adam - Played maybe 1 in 3 or 4 games under Smith, Rangers were practically desperate to get him out the door for the last year but he dug his heels in before finally leaving.
Gavin Rae - Constantly injured at Rangers, most people forget he was even here and nobody misses him.
Alan Gow - Has made 1 appearance for Rangers in 2 years despite being fully fit and was extremely impressive when on loan in the championship last year
Ross McCormack - Never broke through to the 1st team and was given away to Motherwell, scored as a sub in the champions leage away to Porto a few years ago, 2 weeks later shipped out on loan to Doncaster
Steven MacLean - Been injured this season I think but he scored a good few in the 2 seasons before that.

How can you seriously say these guys were 1st team regulars and Rangers didnt want to sell them?  And, except for Adam, they were all sold in the last 2 or 3 years so I doubt the banks were forcing us to sell these guys, we barely made a penny from them anyway.

As for the banks comment, who has been sold due to pressure from the bank??  I can think of 3 players in the last 5 years that MIGHT have been forced out the door due to the size of the transfer fee(I know 1 was for sure) but I seriously doubt the banks were banging on the door telling Rangers to start inviting bids for players so who was sold unwillingly by Rangers to appease the bank?

I was thinking more of Carlos Queer-hawk, Hutton, Ferguson and the constantly trying to offload Kris Boyd

none of them play in the championship

whoops, boba's post was tl;dr, so i just assumed he meant anywhere in england

his post was half a line.

why reply to a post of half a line that you havent read with a post trying to cause a reaction

get over yourself Iron, why would i want a reaction from a guy who i know and im actually friends with

perhaps its you thats trying to get a reaction? it wont work mate, sorry.

[Colchester Kev]

Not wanted

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8353937.stm

[boldie]

[ ] that's a shocker
[ ] the subject won't raise it's ugly head again

[Teacake]

14 votes against compared to 20 the last time.

Should get in by the time England win a World Cup bid.

[lazaroonie]

why do we need to be linked together in any bid to get into the premiership ?

Its like trying to get into a nightclub with your slightly deranged tourettes spouting mate walking in with you....

[Maxriddles]

[ ] that's a shocker
[ ] the subject won't raise it's ugly head again

This

[Boba Fett]

why do we need to be linked together in any bid to get into the premiership ?

Its like trying to get into a nightclub with your slightly deranged tourettes spouting mate walking in with you....

Seems like a good fit to me, bring in 1 Scottish team and 1 Irish team at the same time!

[The Baron]

not really sure why this debate is happening, they wont be allowed in the premiership anyway...

If they managed to get in they'd get relegated (cos they're crap) and then go back to Scotland.

Part of the proposal is that there is no relegation.

Yes they are both crap at the moment but both clubs would be able to attract much better players if they were part of the EPL due to the massive increase in revenue and the atrraction of playing in EPL and not the SPL.

Agree.

I cant see anything other than a win on all sides except for the current other SPL sides who will spend a few years recovering financially and remodelling their business but long run it's a winner up there too.