Evilpie's get off your lazy arse and get back to the gym diaries

[kinboshi]

In your past and planned future training, do you do no cardio work at all?

Ie is your aim just to get big again but not overly fit?

P.s. If you ever go at a sensible time of day we will have a mirror weights prop bet, ill sure be close to winning that!

Nah. Cardio's for girls. I've tried it but I just find it boring trundling along on a treadmill.

I've played squash and obviously the fighting I did was great for cardio but I won't be doing either in the foreseeable future.

I guess walking about 4 miles a day with the dog counts for a bit? Other that that nothing.

My aim is to get big again and that's it.

Running on a treadmill IS boring.  Like squash there's loads of other cardio stuff you can do, most of it far more interesting when it's not in the gym.

Matt's quite lean naturally though. Now that he's changing his diet and sleeping more too whilst doing weights and walking Ronnie his fitness will improve and his body fat % will decrease.

Different sort of fitness gained through strength training and cardio-work.  I think that's what Stu was asking about?

The theory is that if you're big enough you need need to run away so don't need to do any cardio.

Might be running after something or someone?

Or even someit?

Or sumfink.

[EvilPie]

In your past and planned future training, do you do no cardio work at all?

Ie is your aim just to get big again but not overly fit?

P.s. If you ever go at a sensible time of day we will have a mirror weights prop bet, ill sure be close to winning that!

Nah. Cardio's for girls. I've tried it but I just find it boring trundling along on a treadmill.

I've played squash and obviously the fighting I did was great for cardio but I won't be doing either in the foreseeable future.

I guess walking about 4 miles a day with the dog counts for a bit? Other that that nothing.

My aim is to get big again and that's it.

Running on a treadmill IS boring.  Like squash there's loads of other cardio stuff you can do, most of it far more interesting when it's not in the gym.

Matt's quite lean naturally though. Now that he's changing his diet and sleeping more too whilst doing weights and walking Ronnie his fitness will improve and his body fat % will decrease.

Different sort of fitness gained through strength training and cardio-work.  I think that's what Stu was asking about?

The theory is that if you're big enough you need need to run away so don't need to do any cardio.

Might be running after something or someone?

If you're big enough you just shout STOP!!!! really loud and everything freezes.

You can then saunter after whatever it is you want at your leisure.

[kinboshi]

In your past and planned future training, do you do no cardio work at all?

Ie is your aim just to get big again but not overly fit?

P.s. If you ever go at a sensible time of day we will have a mirror weights prop bet, ill sure be close to winning that!

Nah. Cardio's for girls. I've tried it but I just find it boring trundling along on a treadmill.

I've played squash and obviously the fighting I did was great for cardio but I won't be doing either in the foreseeable future.

I guess walking about 4 miles a day with the dog counts for a bit? Other that that nothing.

My aim is to get big again and that's it.

Running on a treadmill IS boring.  Like squash there's loads of other cardio stuff you can do, most of it far more interesting when it's not in the gym.

Matt's quite lean naturally though. Now that he's changing his diet and sleeping more too whilst doing weights and walking Ronnie his fitness will improve and his body fat % will decrease.

Different sort of fitness gained through strength training and cardio-work.  I think that's what Stu was asking about?

The theory is that if you're big enough you need need to run away so don't need to do any cardio.

Might be running after something or someone?

If you're big enough you just shout STOP!!!! really loud and everything freezes.

You can then saunter after whatever it is you want at your leisure.

Oh I see.  As you were then. 

Rowing would suit your build.  A lot to do with leg strength combined with body strength, as well as the cardio aspect obviously.

[StuartHopkin]

In your past and planned future training, do you do no cardio work at all?

Ie is your aim just to get big again but not overly fit?

P.s. If you ever go at a sensible time of day we will have a mirror weights prop bet, ill sure be close to winning that!

Nah. Cardio's for girls. I've tried it but I just find it boring trundling along on a treadmill.

I've played squash and obviously the fighting I did was great for cardio but I won't be doing either in the foreseeable future.

I guess walking about 4 miles a day with the dog counts for a bit? Other that that nothing.

My aim is to get big again and that's it.

Running on a treadmill IS boring.  Like squash there's loads of other cardio stuff you can do, most of it far more interesting when it's not in the gym.

Matt's quite lean naturally though. Now that he's changing his diet and sleeping more too whilst doing weights and walking Ronnie his fitness will improve and his body fat % will decrease.

Different sort of fitness gained through strength training and cardio-work.  I think that's what Stu was asking about?

The theory is that if you're big enough you need need to run away so don't need to do any cardio.

Might be running after something or someone?

If you're big enough you just shout STOP!!!! really loud and everything freezes.

You can then saunter after whatever it is you want at your leisure.

Can you not just close your eyes, screw up your face and shout Ya Taaaaaaaa

[GreekStein]

What was your max benchpress for say 3 reps Matt?

Also, what did you used to squat?

Max bench was about 140kg including the bar. I was never a big bench presser. My frame isn't really designed for it as I have long arms and long triceps. Drop it to 120kg though and I could get 12 out on a good day.

Biggest squat was 160kg but only for a couple of reps and with 3 spotters, 1 for support and 1 each end of the bar just in case.

My biggest bench for 2 reps max was 115kg yet I did 160kg squatting at peak too.

Gotta get back in too. I always seem to do well, train hard(ish) for 3-6 months even though my diet is far from ideal and then poker will normally lead to me messing up which is why I haven't trained since Ireland. (Sigh).

I'm now at my heaviest weight ever, 14 stone, (megasigh) and even the muscle that lay underneath the fat is rapidly going soft. I'm nearly your weight and I'm half a foot shorter!

I've just bought a tub of protein (£55-normal sigh) and some protein bars. Gonna start again myself tonight when I get back from work!

Let's gogogo.

[sovietsong]

What was your max benchpress for say 3 reps Matt?

Also, what did you used to squat?

Max bench was about 140kg including the bar. I was never a big bench presser. My frame isn't really designed for it as I have long arms and long triceps. Drop it to 120kg though and I could get 12 out on a good day.

Biggest squat was 160kg but only for a couple of reps and with 3 spotters, 1 for support and 1 each end of the bar just in case.

My biggest bench for 2 reps max was 115kg yet I did 160kg squatting at peak too.

Gotta get back in too. I always seem to do well, train hard(ish) for 3-6 months even though my diet is far from ideal and then poker will normally lead to me messing up which is why I haven't trained since Ireland. (Sigh).

I'm now at my heaviest weight ever, 14 stone, (megasigh) and even the muscle that lay underneath the fat is rapidly going soft. I'm nearly your weight and I'm half a foot shorter!

I've just bought a tub of protein (£55-normal sigh) and some protein bars. Gonna start again myself tonight when I get back from work!

Let's gogogo.

pics please...

[GreekStein]

What was your max benchpress for say 3 reps Matt?

Also, what did you used to squat?

Max bench was about 140kg including the bar. I was never a big bench presser. My frame isn't really designed for it as I have long arms and long triceps. Drop it to 120kg though and I could get 12 out on a good day.

Biggest squat was 160kg but only for a couple of reps and with 3 spotters, 1 for support and 1 each end of the bar just in case.

My biggest bench for 2 reps max was 115kg yet I did 160kg squatting at peak too.

Gotta get back in too. I always seem to do well, train hard(ish) for 3-6 months even though my diet is far from ideal and then poker will normally lead to me messing up which is why I haven't trained since Ireland. (Sigh).

I'm now at my heaviest weight ever, 14 stone, (megasigh) and even the muscle that lay underneath the fat is rapidly going soft. I'm nearly your weight and I'm half a foot shorter!

I've just bought a tub of protein (£55-normal sigh) and some protein bars. Gonna start again myself tonight when I get back from work!

Let's gogogo.

pics please...

lol of what?  the corn rows i just got done on my back?

[sovietsong]

What was your max benchpress for say 3 reps Matt?

Also, what did you used to squat?

Max bench was about 140kg including the bar. I was never a big bench presser. My frame isn't really designed for it as I have long arms and long triceps. Drop it to 120kg though and I could get 12 out on a good day.

Biggest squat was 160kg but only for a couple of reps and with 3 spotters, 1 for support and 1 each end of the bar just in case.

My biggest bench for 2 reps max was 115kg yet I did 160kg squatting at peak too.

Gotta get back in too. I always seem to do well, train hard(ish) for 3-6 months even though my diet is far from ideal and then poker will normally lead to me messing up which is why I haven't trained since Ireland. (Sigh).

I'm now at my heaviest weight ever, 14 stone, (megasigh) and even the muscle that lay underneath the fat is rapidly going soft. I'm nearly your weight and I'm half a foot shorter!

I've just bought a tub of protein (£55-normal sigh) and some protein bars. Gonna start again myself tonight when I get back from work!

Let's gogogo.

pics please...

lol of what?  the corn rows i just got done on my back?

your sexy body

[GreekStein]

Just finished my first session too Matt.

Even missed the Greece world cup qualifier to go!

Did shoulders and tried to keep it as high intensity as I could with very little break between sets and exercises. Shoulders were burning like made when I finally got out.

Just had my protein shake and feel good, ready for tomorrow.

Think I'm gonna sign back up to my old spinning class too and do 2 times a week.

[Colchester Kev]

Just finished my first session too Matt.

Even missed the Greece world cup qualifier to go!

Did shoulders and tried to keep it as high intensity as I could with very little break between sets and exercises. Shoulders were burning like made when I finally got out.

Just had my protein shake and feel good, ready for tomorrow.

Think I'm gonna sign back up to my old spinning class too and do 2 times a week.

[Longy]

Just finished my first session too Matt.

Even missed the Greece world cup qualifier to go!

Did shoulders and tried to keep it as high intensity as I could with very little break between sets and exercises. Shoulders were burning like made when I finally got out.

Just had my protein shake and feel good, ready for tomorrow.

Think I'm gonna sign back up to my old spinning up class too and do 2k a few times a week.

FYP

[EvilPie]

What was your max benchpress for say 3 reps Matt?

Also, what did you used to squat?

Max bench was about 140kg including the bar. I was never a big bench presser. My frame isn't really designed for it as I have long arms and long triceps. Drop it to 120kg though and I could get 12 out on a good day.

Biggest squat was 160kg but only for a couple of reps and with 3 spotters, 1 for support and 1 each end of the bar just in case.

My biggest bench for 2 reps max was 115kg yet I did 160kg squatting at peak too.

Gotta get back in too. I always seem to do well, train hard(ish) for 3-6 months even though my diet is far from ideal and then poker will normally lead to me messing up which is why I haven't trained since Ireland. (Sigh).

I'm now at my heaviest weight ever, 14 stone, (megasigh) and even the muscle that lay underneath the fat is rapidly going soft. I'm nearly your weight and I'm half a foot shorter!

I've just bought a tub of protein (£55-normal sigh) and some protein bars. Gonna start again myself tonight when I get back from work!

Let's gogogo.

Nice one mate. Dig in and let's get on it.

[EvilPie]

Well I've been absolutely knackered today after training this morning so I'm going to have a nice hot jacuzzi and an early night.

My diet hasn't been good today. I haven't eaten anything bad I've just not eaten enough good stuff.

Basically I just had my pre training shake/oatmeal and then my supper just now which was a 4 egg omelette with a pitta.

Normally on a busy day I would just grab a chicken kebab but I don't want to eat that kind of thing while I'm trimming down. When I'm back to the building up stage it's far better to eat something bad than eat nothing at all but I'm not at that stage yet.

This isn't a major problem at the moment but I can't miss any meals further down the line.

Once my supplements arrive I'll be able to have protein bars or flapjacks on busy days like today so won't miss out if I struggle for time to eat a proper meal. They should be here tomorrow unless Dan manages to intercept the delivery and send then to vitamin hell where they belong!!!!!

[EvilPie]

So hopefully tomorrow morning will be a little bit easier than today.

The plan is to some stretching and abs for 15 minutes then do an arms session.

I'll be doing 3 different types of curls then 2 triceps exercises. Biceps don't need too much work as they are a very small muscle. Loads of people overdo their biceps because they want 'big guns' but they are just wasting their time by over training. Just look at the size of your biceps compared to your thighs. Do you really think they need as much work? And yet you see people do hours training biceps then neglect their legs.

Triceps although bigger than the biceps also don't need too much work. This is because they are used a lot in many other exercises so get secondary training during other sessions.

So the alarm's set for 6am and I'll be there at 7 ready for the off. I'm really looking forward to it and I'm very optimistic about sticking to my plan.

I'll report in the morning on how it went.

[GreekStein]

Sorry for semi-hijacking your thread to write down what I'm doing myself but kinda wanna get your thoughts on what I'm doing for a week or so and then I'll f*ck off back to where I came from.

Did you normally have any order to your sessions? I.e don't recommend doing one body part the day after doing another?

Did shoulders yday, probably going to do back and abs tonight and a little bit of cardio. Cardio before I begin my weight sesh I assume yeh?

Bought some waters and vitamin waters for my desk for my desk to replace normal Hot chocolates from Cafe Nero and the odd ribena from the cornershop.

Had a bagel (no butter) with fresh crab meat in it for breakfast. Just about to have an orange and a banana now before lunch at one.

Be a struggle going from Chicken Katsu Curry or Thai Noodles and Chicken Massaman to Salad Box but gotta be done. I really struggle a lot more with my diet as I just love to plough through ridic amounts of food. Not a big one for crisps and chocolates etc so don't find it a problem not eating them at all but I like my curries, chineses, and just generally eating things like chicken sandwiches with lots of mayo etc...

Also, my times of eating are not ideal.

I have lunch at half 1 normally and then will often have a little something around 4 but I get home about 7.30 and try and be at the gym for half 8. Should I eat a meal as soon as I get home and give it an hour and a half before I train and then just have a protein shake when I get back?

What I usually do is get home from work, have a tiny bit of my dinner, be it a bowl of pasta of a chicken sandwich and then eat again once I've finished training but I guess it can't be good for me to eat so late in the evening, particularly now that I'm aiming to be in bed by midnight every day rather than the 2am sort of time previous.