ZOMG Marcus Bebb Jones

[pokefast]

i better be carefull what i say dont want the grand junction press quoting me and me getting my visa for vegas canceled before i get it

I think you'll be alright its hardly fleet street is it!

thats your trip gone

I'd only go if i could go by boat anyway!

[G1BTW]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

[pokefast]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

[gatso]

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

there is a big difference imo between respecting their laws and respecting their punishments

[G1BTW]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

[pokefast]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

[Ironside]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

but untill he faces trial we dont know if he has commited the crime

[pokefast]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

but untill he faces trial we dont know if he has commited the crime

Of course not,but imo you go face trial if you are not guilty happy days,if you are guilty then you face whichever punishment is deemed to fit the crime.

[cia260895]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

but untill he faces trial we dont know if he has commited the crime

Of course not,but imo you go face trial if you are not guilty happy days,if you are guilty then you face whichever punishment is deemed to fit the crime.

unless yr innocent and get found guilty.

[Ironside]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

but untill he faces trial we dont know if he has commited the crime

Of course not,but imo you go face trial if you are not guilty happy days,if you are guilty then you face whichever punishment is deemed to fit the crime.

unless yr innocent and get found guilty.

come on you saying that courts sometimes get things wrong surely not

[G1BTW]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

but untill he faces trial we dont know if he has commited the crime

Of course not,but imo you go face trial if you are not guilty happy days,if you are guilty then you face whichever punishment is deemed to fit the crime.

unless yr innocent and get found guilty.

come on you saying that courts sometimes get things wrong surely not

American system pretty watertight, imo, very few people found guilty of murder and put to death subsequenty win their appeals

[G1BTW]

This is really funny



Except it's done in a country where they put down bad people as if they were rabid dogs, which makes it less funny.

[Ironside]

Just seems an odd rule. What is to be gained by not allowing someone to be extradited if there is a possibility of the death sentence?

Because in the UK we believe the Death Penalty to be an act of unjustified killing, ie murder, so would be partly complicit in an act of murder.

Thats fair enough and i could understand it for less civilised countries,but to me it doesn't seem right.

Because America is a more civilized country there may be more merits in them having the Death Penalty than say, Nigeria? Personally, I think if we don't think it's right here, we can't send one of our citizens to a country where they have it. We are partaking in someone else's act of barbarism.

Maybe not,but surely there is something to be said for respecting the laws of the land where the offence was commited?

Hmm, yer, that's another point to consider. If someone commits murder in one of these States they do so knowing that Death could be their punishment.
Harsh, though.

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." Will Munny, Unforgiven

I agree it is harsh. I just think if you commit any crime in another land its reasonable to assume you'll have to stand trial there and take your chances.

but untill he faces trial we dont know if he has commited the crime

Of course not,but imo you go face trial if you are not guilty happy days,if you are guilty then you face whichever punishment is deemed to fit the crime.

unless yr innocent and get found guilty.

come on you saying that courts sometimes get things wrong surely not

American system pretty watertight, imo, very few people found guilty of murder and put to death subsequenty win their appeals

no they just sit on death row for 20 years to get out at a later date

[Ironside]

American system pretty watertight, imo, very few people found guilty of murder and put to death subsequenty win their appeals

is it only me that finds one too many never mind very few?

[Claw75]

American system pretty watertight, imo, very few people found guilty of murder and put to death subsequenty win their appeals

is it only me that finds one too many never mind very few?

no - it's not just you Iron. Also don't quite understand how it could be considered ok to send someone to the US to face a death penalty but not OK to send them somewhere else to face the same.