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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2009, 12:10:15 PM »

i got so so bored of poker, the only thing i can play atm is turbo HUSNGs, only take 10 mins, gotta concentrate, 1 tabling is fine, somewhat interesting working out how someone thinks and then totally pwning them.

i pretty much agree that poker is pointless and probably 98% of players would be better off doing something else, I have totally changed my tune from gotta get new players in the game to thinking that encouraging people to play poker is pretty much the same as encouraging them to play the lottery/ bet on horses/spread bet/whatever. I know some people win but for the amount of time and energy it takes and 95% will lose anyway it seems like most people would be better off burning a few notes and spending some time with their families or playing a sport or something instead

Does anyone hate poker more than you Byron?

lol if I could afford to take 3 months off i'd prob love it again, was that when you were travelling? what else did you do with all that time?

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2009, 12:15:34 PM »

Yeah 1st 6 weeks was when I was travelling. Got back and really didn't want to play for some reason, so I decided to go back to arbing for a short period and enjoy the summer. I was kind of forced back into playing poker as about half the bookies banned me and it was getting really hard to match the amount of money I could make playing poker.

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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2009, 12:19:21 PM »

LoL I fking love poker!!!

Even when I do my bollocks I love it.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2009, 02:16:32 PM »

LoL I fking love poker!!!

Even when I do my bollocks I love it.

lol'd hard when i read this. Never met any fish who abs loves this fkin sik game much as Costas
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2009, 02:35:29 PM »

Just take a break, buy modern warfare 2 and an internet connection and we'll see you in a few weeks thumbs up

If you think your head is really messed up maybe take a look at some stuff about variance and statistical anomalies and have a look at some of the sicker winning/loss/break even graphs.


In summation, poker sucks bawls.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2009, 03:15:06 PM »

The worst thing you can do it continually go into games with a negative mindset, thinking your never gonna hit the flush draws, its gonna come AKX when you have Queens etc.
This will inevitable lead to you stopping playing hands how you normally would because your always expecting the absolute worst outcome.

Jakallys right about enjoying the social aspect tho, the hours dont drag as much when your sat round the table having a good bit of banter and having the piss taken out of you 5 times an orbit...(more f'kin food!?!)
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2009, 04:53:38 PM »

The worst thing you can do it continually go into games with a negative mindset, thinking your never gonna hit the flush draws, its gonna come AKX when you have Queens etc.
This will inevitable lead to you stopping playing hands how you normally would because your always expecting the absolute worst outcome.

Jakallys right about enjoying the social aspect tho, the hours dont drag as much when your sat round the table having a good bit of banter and having the piss taken out of you 5 times an orbit...(more f'kin food!?!)


You do take comfort eating to the extreme though.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2009, 04:55:02 PM »

i got so so bored of poker, the only thing i can play atm is turbo HUSNGs, only take 10 mins, gotta concentrate, 1 tabling is fine, somewhat interesting working out how someone thinks and then totally pwning them.

i pretty much agree that poker is pointless and probably 98% of players would be better off doing something else, I have totally changed my tune from gotta get new players in the game to thinking that encouraging people to play poker is pretty much the same as encouraging them to play the lottery/ bet on horses/spread bet/whatever. I know some people win but for the amount of time and energy it takes and 95% will lose anyway it seems like most people would be better off burning a few notes and spending some time with their families or playing a sport or something instead

Does anyone hate poker more than you Byron?


 
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2009, 05:59:09 PM »

If you are making a longterm profit out of poker as you say and you are currently making +EV plays at the table what exactly is the problem? If the results are tilting you so much you are playing bad then maybe you should take a break. But if you're still playing well why are you being results orientated? Poker is a test of character imo and feeling sorry for yourself during inevitable downswings isn't the characteristic of a good player.
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2009, 06:03:27 PM »

If you are making a longterm profit out of poker as you say and you are currently making +EV plays at the table what exactly is the problem? If the results are tilting you so much you are playing bad then maybe you should take a break. But if you're still playing well why are you being results orientated? Poker is a test of character imo and feeling sorry for yourself during inevitable downswings isn't the characteristic of a good player.

Cos we're all robots.....
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2009, 06:07:53 PM »

If you are making a longterm profit out of poker as you say and you are currently making +EV plays at the table what exactly is the problem? If the results are tilting you so much you are playing bad then maybe you should take a break. But if you're still playing well why are you being results orientated? Poker is a test of character imo and feeling sorry for yourself during inevitable downswings isn't the characteristic of a good player.

Cos we're all robots.....



Just think how much better a robot would be than you or me george. it'd be dealt J6green and when folded to it'd just lay it down.......

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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2009, 06:15:00 PM »

If you are making a longterm profit out of poker as you say and you are currently making +EV plays at the table what exactly is the problem? If the results are tilting you so much you are playing bad then maybe you should take a break. But if you're still playing well why are you being results orientated? Poker is a test of character imo and feeling sorry for yourself during inevitable downswings isn't the characteristic of a good player.

Cos we're all robots.....

Must be a program malfunction to lay down greens


Just think how much better a robot would be than you or me george. it'd be dealt J6green and when folded to it'd just lay it down.......


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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2009, 06:18:20 PM »

Also doubt you have played enough hands live to have any idea of what a downswing can be like.
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2009, 07:08:05 PM »

Also doubt you have played enough hands live to have any idea of what a downswing can be like.

Thanks for the replies, all.

Actually I do have some idea of how many hands I have played live and it's around 30,000 in the last three years on and off.

Also, while poker is a  'hobby', at the same time I am currently out of work so I have been effectively using it to pay the bills but doing it off an extremely vulnerable bankroll. It was only a matter of time before the downswing hit and with the profits already spent I was going to find myself in real trouble.

I would play £1/£2 if I could afford it as it is even easier to beat than 50p/£1 but when you are barely rolled for the smallest game and the biggest game plays four times higher in reality then that wouldnt be wise.

As regards the moral justification, I agree with jakally, there is none. But there is no moral justification for a lot of things we do really. I suppose we all have a choice and if I try to win his money I must remember he is trying to win mine.
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2009, 07:17:34 PM »

If you are making a longterm profit out of poker as you say and you are currently making +EV plays at the table what exactly is the problem? If the results are tilting you so much you are playing bad then maybe you should take a break. But if you're still playing well why are you being results orientated? Poker is a test of character imo and feeling sorry for yourself during inevitable downswings isn't the characteristic of a good player.

Cos we're all robots.....

Yeah it's natural and human nature to feel cursed when you're on a downswing. Are you actually cursed? Prob not. Does feeling like you're cursed help you play better? Prob not. Ultimately, if you want to be a better player acquiring a more robotic attitude to downswings is prob a good thing. Aren't you currently seeking to improve your own attitude to downswings and bad beats?
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