Angle shooting at its worst - That Roland De Wolfe incident

[poonjoe]

What was the ruling from the bank?

[titaniumbean]

You can't blame people for taking advantage of dumb behaviour. There's a guy who I work with who at times can be plain dumb. Last week he was using the cash machine and when it said "Do you require another service?" he just walked off without retrieving his card. Yep, that's right. Plain dumb. He reckons the hot girl from the sandwich shop walked past and he got distracted. Anyway, when he realised what he'd done he raced back to the cashpoint. It appears the guy behind him in the queue required another service alright because the max withdrawel had been made. Now it's a shame people steal and I feel kinda sorry for this guy but it was his own dumb ass behaviour that allowed this to happen. Roland invited this. And it happened.

meh I dont see the comparison. but I do agree it was RDW's fault 100%. kudos to tobias for the bluff call.

[poonjoe]

Nobody is arguing about whether the right ruling was made... it was.

Is it OK to lie at the poker table? errr, yup. After the hand is over... shooting an angle... celebrating about it.... errr... No.

[poonjoe]

OK then Beanie I look forward to seeing you try this bluff-call move sometime soon....

[titaniumbean]

Nobody is arguing about whether the right ruling was made... it was.

Is it OK to lie at the poker table? errr, yup. After the hand is over... shooting an angle... celebrating about it.... errr... No.

Where does he lie? he doesn't have to say whether he can beat K high, RDW HAS TO TABLE HIS HAND TO WIN AND AND AND HE KNOWS IT!

IMO You can lie at any point except at showdown. if tobias can beat k high will he really just sit there and not show his TWO cards?

Celebrating winning the pot with the worst hand because of your opponents stuck up stupidity is brilliant and should be applauded.


haha pooon whenever I bluff call I get shown a purrrrr of deuces. they're always good

[AndrewT]

Nobody is arguing about whether the right ruling was made... it was.

Is it OK to lie at the poker table? errr, yup. After the hand is over... shooting an angle... celebrating about it.... errr... No.

I'm sure Tobias doesn't make a habit of things like this, but made an exception here to teach RDW a lesson about the angle he was known for shooting (seeing opponent's cards when he is second to act but denying his opponent the opportunity to see his when RDW is first to act).

lol fine imo, RDW got pwned, turn your cards over son.

Basically, this.

[MANTIS01]

You can't blame people for taking advantage of dumb behaviour. There's a guy who I work with who at times can be plain dumb. Last week he was using the cash machine and when it said "Do you require another service?" he just walked off without retrieving his card. Yep, that's right. Plain dumb. He reckons the hot girl from the sandwich shop walked past and he got distracted. Anyway, when he realised what he'd done he raced back to the cashpoint. It appears the guy behind him in the queue required another service alright because the max withdrawel had been made. Now it's a shame people steal and I feel kinda sorry for this guy but it was his own dumb ass behaviour that allowed this to happen. Roland invited this. And it happened.

So if you were the guy behind him in the queue you would of taken his money too?

Questioning my own morality is a very weak arguement. I don't steal personally. My point is people steal and you should have your wits about you, especially in situations where your vulnerability could be exposed. RDW is playing a poker pot here not attending a bible reading at Sunday school. Not only that but the td ruled the germ had acted within the rules of the game. So fair play to him. Wouldn't do it myself like.

[poonjoe]

WP - you made me lol and I agree RDW is stupid for not realising what was happening.

Now in turn you must agree that Tobias is a filthy angle shooting rat.

[poonjoe]

lol how has this got on to questioning Mantis' morality?

[BulldozerD]

I think ze German posted his thoughts on 2+2

fwiw i think it was very borderline but fine, RDW is at fault imo

[ACE2M]

Rightly or wrongly there is a sort of perceived superior etiquette in big buy in tournies where nobody forces anyone to show there hand if they accept their beat so i can forgive RDW as thats what he is used to.

[GreekStein]

You can't blame people for taking advantage of dumb behaviour. There's a guy who I work with who at times can be plain dumb. Last week he was using the cash machine and when it said "Do you require another service?" he just walked off without retrieving his card. Yep, that's right. Plain dumb. He reckons the hot girl from the sandwich shop walked past and he got distracted. Anyway, when he realised what he'd done he raced back to the cashpoint. It appears the guy behind him in the queue required another service alright because the max withdrawel had been made. Now it's a shame people steal and I feel kinda sorry for this guy but it was his own dumb ass behaviour that allowed this to happen. Roland invited this. And it happened.

So if you were the guy behind him in the queue you would of taken his money too?

Questioning my own morality is a very weak arguement. I don't steal personally. My point is people steal and you should have your wits about you, especially in situations where your vulnerability could be exposed. RDW is playing a poker pot here not attending a bible reading at Sunday school. Not only that but the td ruled the germ had acted within the rules of the game. So fair play to him. Wouldn't do it myself like.

I wasn't questioning your morality. Quite the contrary as I knew the answer to the question I was asking.

Your point was poor though because in using an analogy where you are trying to say Roland is the mug you give Tobias the role of a thief.

[MANTIS01]

I must concede that if the germ did this to a friend of mine or a woman or anyone I didn't find mildly irritating it would be bang out of order. But I don't know anyone who would be flashing a k and acting like such a nob at showdown really. Also I agree that my cashpoint point was poor but I thought the thread was in need of an entertaining story. And that story has entertained everyone at work all week. Everyone except Dave of course.

[Woodsey]

Rightly or wrongly there is a sort of perceived superior etiquette in big buy in tournies where nobody forces anyone to show there hand if they accept their beat so i can forgive RDW as thats what he is used to.

That's an interesting point, because I myself would extend that etiquette to people who I know well and play with regularly, but not to a random. I think I'd also be less likely to extend it the higher the buy in.

[gatso]

What was the ruling from the bank?

falls into the category of not protecting your pin, no way they give you your money back according to thomas kremser