The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread

[gasman]

Thanks to Blue Sq/Grosvenor for the freeroll - nice £1750 bonus (obv brag)

Definetley think the players that get blinded into the money should have been paid - Maybe next year remove players stack if they don't turn up end of level 2

Good luck to Dan ''Fit Squad'' Furnival today

[Murph1984]

iv'e got to say that Rank Gaming are putting the money up as a freeroll, so they can do whatever they want with it and pay who they like. If you are not there why should they then have to go to the trouble of forwarding you the money at a expense of time and money?

i think they just should not of bothered putting the chips in play if players where not present at the start.

But well done to Grosvenor for putting up the 100k in the first place who else in the uk market have done anything close to this in the last 10 years for the masses rather than the select few who they deem tv worthy?

That's the thing,there is no expense of time and/or money to them to do it as all winnings are being paid into players' BlueSquare accounts anyway.

[Richard Gryko]

Grosvenor have done a lot of good things this year.  The structure of the headsup tournaments is so good I almost want to weep with joy, the increased starting stacks for main events is obviously a great development, and the added money for leaderboard/champ of champs wouldve been virtually unthinkable not too long ago.

However, this past week has seen the tour end on something of a sour note.  Its a terrible anti climax to run a small stakes festival in a dump of a town after the Grand Final, which wouldve been a far better conclusion.  Run the Champ of Champs by all means, but the side events were an experience I hope to forget.  Martin and I were seperated by half a point on the leaderboard, and so we each spent the entire festival playing solely to outlast the other.  Its moderately interesting to figure out how optimal strategy is affected by this situation, but then hours of torture while implementing it. 

In addition, Martin and I played it out in a very good spirit, but it doesnt take a genius to work out the game integrity issues that couldve arisen with two different people fighting for a leaderboard prize far greater than that which was up for grabs in the tournaments that decided the leaderboards outcome.

As far as yesterday goes, I'd be lying if I said I agreed with the call to restrict eligibility for prizes to those who showed up.  In my opinion, everyone already earned the equity their chips provided them with by participating in previous, non-freeroll, events.  Although I'm obviously an interested party, there seems to have been enough consensus on this point amongst people who arent, that I'm surprised Grosvenor felt it an advisable change to make at such short notice. 

All of that said, everything in the first paragraph I wrote makes me disinclined to kick up too much of a fuss.  Frankly, I'm far more annoyed about having to spend a week in Luton than I am about missing out on my hard earned Champ of Champs prize money.  Also, Jingle Bell Ball was awesome, so I'm still glad I didnt show up...:p

[AlrightJack]

tbf i think id rather play asif hu in luton for my net worth than attend the jinglebellball

What is the jinglebellball?

[Richard Gryko]

tbf i think id rather play asif hu in luton for my net worth than attend the jinglebellball

What is the jinglebellball?

http://www.capitalfm.com/jingle-bell-ball/jingle-bell-ball-02-arena-december-05-06/

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Its a terrible anti climax to run a small stakes festival in a dump of a town

DIE

[AlrightJack]

Grosvenor have done a lot of good things this year.  The structure of the headsup tournaments is so good I almost want to weep with joy, the increased starting stacks for main events is obviously a great development, and the added money for leaderboard/champ of champs wouldve been virtually unthinkable not too long ago.

However, this past week has seen the tour end on something of a sour note.  Its a terrible anti climax to run a small stakes festival in a dump of a town after the Grand Final, which wouldve been a far better conclusion.  Run the Champ of Champs by all means, but the side events were an experience I hope to forget.  Martin and I were seperated by half a point on the leaderboard, and so we each spent the entire festival playing solely to outlast the other.  Its moderately interesting to figure out how optimal strategy is affected by this situation, but then hours of torture while implementing it. 

In addition, Martin and I played it out in a very good spirit, but it doesnt take a genius to work out the game integrity issues that couldve arisen with two different people fighting for a leaderboard prize far greater than that which was up for grabs in the tournaments that decided the leaderboards outcome.

As far as yesterday goes, I'd be lying if I said I agreed with the call to restrict eligibility for prizes to those who showed up.  In my opinion, everyone already earned the equity their chips provided them with by participating in previous, non-freeroll, events.  Although I'm obviously an interested party, there seems to have been enough consensus on this point amongst people who arent, that I'm surprised Grosvenor felt it an advisable change to make at such short notice. 

All of that said, everything in the first paragraph I wrote makes me disinclined to kick up too much of a fuss.  Frankly, I'm far more annoyed about having to spend a week in Luton than I am about missing out on my hard earned Champ of Champs prize money.  Also, Jingle Bell Ball was awesome, so I'm still glad I didnt show up...:p

Richard, first of all congratulations for topping the leaderboard and becoming the Player of the Year. I appreciate that the GUKPT schedule is very busy at this time of the year, what with Blackpool, the Grand Final and then the Champion of Champions festival pretty much running into each other. Next year there will still be a festival of supporting events surrounding the champion of Champions tournament, but it will be reduced to 5 days rather than a whole week and the support events will all be much smaller buy ins. It will be in Coventry next year, which is probably our nicest casino, thanks to the millions that Isle of Capri spent doing it up before deciding to quit the UK market.

Of course, there were imperfections in the way that the rankings and the Champion of Champions events have been conducted and I will make sure that next year everything is much clearer to all. We may not get things right all of the time, but we are committed to improving things and making them better for the future.

[the sicilian]

Its a terrible anti climax to run a small stakes festival in a dump of a town

DIE

[ ]  The mayor of luton has added richard to his xmas card list

[nirvana]

Grosvenor have done a lot of good things this year.  The structure of the headsup tournaments is so good I almost want to weep with joy, the increased starting stacks for main events is obviously a great development, and the added money for leaderboard/champ of champs wouldve been virtually unthinkable not too long ago.

However, this past week has seen the tour end on something of a sour note.  Its a terrible anti climax to run a small stakes festival in a dump of a town after the Grand Final, which wouldve been a far better conclusion.  Run the Champ of Champs by all means, but the side events were an experience I hope to forget.  Martin and I were seperated by half a point on the leaderboard, and so we each spent the entire festival playing solely to outlast the other.  Its moderately interesting to figure out how optimal strategy is affected by this situation, but then hours of torture while implementing it. 

In addition, Martin and I played it out in a very good spirit, but it doesnt take a genius to work out the game integrity issues that couldve arisen with two different people fighting for a leaderboard prize far greater than that which was up for grabs in the tournaments that decided the leaderboards outcome.

As far as yesterday goes, I'd be lying if I said I agreed with the call to restrict eligibility for prizes to those who showed up.  In my opinion, everyone already earned the equity their chips provided them with by participating in previous, non-freeroll, events.  Although I'm obviously an interested party, there seems to have been enough consensus on this point amongst people who arent, that I'm surprised Grosvenor felt it an advisable change to make at such short notice. 

All of that said, everything in the first paragraph I wrote makes me disinclined to kick up too much of a fuss.  Frankly, I'm far more annoyed about having to spend a week in Luton than I am about missing out on my hard earned Champ of Champs prize money.  Also, Jingle Bell Ball was awesome, so I'm still glad I didnt show up...:p

Richard, first of all congratulations for topping the leaderboard and becoming the Player of the Year. I appreciate that the GUKPT schedule is very busy at this time of the year, what with Blackpool, the Grand Final and then the Champion of Champions festival pretty much running into each other. Next year there will still be a festival of supporting events surrounding the champion of Champions tournament, but it will be reduced to 5 days rather than a whole week and the support events will all be much smaller buy ins. It will be in Coventry next year, which is probably our nicest casino, thanks to the millions that Isle of Capri spent doing it up before deciding to quit the UK market.

Of course, there were imperfections in the way that the rankings and the Champion of Champions events have been conducted and I will make sure that next year everything is much clearer to all. We may not get things right all of the time, but we are committed to improving things and making them better for the future.

I have to congratulate you on your tact & corporate skills - I may have gone for a simple 'whatever'

[the sicilian]

[ X ] people of Luton were glad Mr Gryko was forced to sample the delights of their town for a whole week so he could secure some more free money

[ ] People of luton were pleased he achieved this.

[ X ] Mr Gryko was former diplomatic advisor to Afghanistan

[Mango99]

I like the idea of a vote before deciding prizepool. Cool stuff imo.

Is there anywhere I can follow this tourney online? I've tried the GUKPT site, but didn't see it.

[TightEnd]

http://blog.grosvenorukpokertour.com/


and AWOP's Nutztv

[luther101]

I like the idea of a vote before deciding prizepool. Cool stuff imo.

Is there anywhere I can follow this tourney online? I've tried the GUKPT site, but didn't see it.

Live stream;

http://www.thenutz.tv/live.php

[AlrightJack]

iv'e got to say that Rank Gaming are putting the money up as a freeroll, so they can do whatever they want with it and pay who they like. If you are not there why should they then have to go to the trouble of forwarding you the money at a expense of time and money?

i think they just should not of bothered putting the chips in play if players where not present at the start.

But well done to Grosvenor for putting up the 100k in the first place who else in the uk market have done anything close to this in the last 10 years for the masses rather than the select few who they deem tv worthy?

WRONG.

Just because something is free doesn't mean they can change it at will. This freeroll is an added bonus related to the purchase of GUKPT tournament entries earlier in the year. If a shop were to offer a free video camera with every widescreen tv bought, then that video camera turned out to be broken, they couldn't very well say "well fuck you it's free", since if you knew that it was broken then maybe you wouldn't have bought the TV. If a company offers a 'free' bonus, then the customer's rights are the same with regard to the bonus as the main item. It was on The Real Hustle or something like that on BBC3 the other week.

Personally I think whilst Mr Raab and the staff at Grosvenor + BlueSq do a great job with all the festivals, the added value is not there in the way I'd prefer it to be, so unfortunately I'll probably be stepping down my involvement in the tour next year. Leaderboards and the CofC freeroll favour high volume players and karl mahrenholz too much imo, I'd prefer the first series philosophy of just adding £10k to each main event. This would also go some way to solving the declining attendances at events like Cardiff + Newcastle imo.

Finally, gogogogo Chris Brammer today.

It was actually more a case of the rules not being detailed fully in the first place, rather than changed. It was something we had not specified one way or another. As i said before, we have made a mistake with this and apologise for it. It is a situation which we could have avoided and will avoid in the future by making the & Cs much clearer from the start. We are however not out to fuck people, we are not peddling broken goods.

[Mango99]

http://blog.grosvenorukpokertour.com/


and AWOP's Nutztv

ty, obviously didn't look hard enough