Hand from Monte Carlo @ DTD

[Mitch]

Ok hand from the DTD Monte Carlo Main Event (Min cash FTW!). 30k Starting stack, now on a 75min clock.

Blinds at 1k/2k/200a

Im sitting on around 80k

UTG limps, I limp in mid position with  , button calls, SB makes up and BB Checks, so 5 way to the flop. (Pot 13.8k)

 

Checked to me, i bet 9,800, Only the SB Calls, playing 60K. I have seen the guy at DTD before but never played with him and he has only just moved to the table about 2 orbits ago. Only info i have is that he 4 bet shoved with Queens and got called by AJ which hit the ace. He was titlted up a bit and was ready to shove his remaining stack in and leave, but since then he has trebled up with Aces that he limped under the gun and survived in a multi way pot.

The Turn brings the  . There is now 33,400 in the pot and villain has 50K behind, I cover him.

How do you play the hand from here...Pot controll or does the hand need to be protected on such a draw heavy board, obv he could also have a big made hand.

[action man]

assuming villain has checked the turn.. you can check behind and look for a blank to pick off a missed draw bluff, or you could bet/call the turn. If you are for some reason thinking of bet/folding the turn then check behind the turn and either call his river bet or make a value bet on the river.

[Rupert]

bet/call turn for value from worse q and for protection vs clubs.  if he jams snap.  i think checkings pretty bad here

[Cottonbud]

This is a really interesting hand so this is a limped pot so no-ones gonna have 10's or Q's here right, 4's maybe but turn just made that really unlikely. So chances are SB could have a hand like QX, KJ with the K or J of clubs, A4 with the ace of clubs, A10/K10 with the big club, the bare ace of clubs with no pair. Could he complete with a hand like Q-4/10-4 theres a good chance I guess. Flopped flush is a possibilty I'm not certain if he would raise the turn with a flopped flush when the board pairs though, but as you cant have Q's, 10's or 4's here their is a good chance he would if he's a decent thinking player.

Based on these range of hands I think you should bet the turn for value and to price out the Pair/SD + FD hands and get an extra street of value from QX as I doubt he is passing a Queen on this turn tbh. If he raises you here your gonna have to re-asess he knows you don't have QQ/1010/44, so depending on his ability I prob would bet/fold to a raise.

[pleno1]

For sure bet the turn, it's a paired board so may foldflush draws, im happy to take the pot dow now and cant really see many good river cards apart from like 2-7 hearts/diamonds/spades.

[jakally]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

This is Mitch............... he doesn't do unlucky.

[GreekStein]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

This is Mitch............... I pwned him with QQ

Sorry Mitch.

[Blatch]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

This is Mitch............... I pwned him with QQ

Sorry Mitch.

This is Mitch ............... I pwned him with QQ too (and got a good slowroll in too)

[Cottonbud]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

I guess if you bet 20k here on the turn you cant pass, but if you bet like 13k I don't think its too bad if you fold to his shove its not a cash game you cant rebuy and hes like always showing you a flush here or A4 with the ace of clubs. I think maybe you bet too much on the flop but given how many players were in the pot, I'm not so sure. Maybe checking the turn isn't such a bad idea if we are expecting him to shove a good percentage of the time, then perhaps re-evaluate on a blank river.

[kinboshi]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

This is Mitch............... I pwned him with QQ

Sorry Mitch.

This is Mitch ............... I pwned him with QQ too (and got a good slowroll in too)

Thread is useless without knowing what Mitch had just been eating, and what he'd ordered next.

[RED-DOG]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

This is Mitch............... I pwned him with QQ

Sorry Mitch.

This is Mitch ............... I pwned him with QQ too (and got a good slowroll in too)

Thread is useless without knowing what Mitch had just been eating, and what he'd ordered next.

Thread is useless without knowing what Mitch had just been eating....

LARD

and what he'd ordered next.....


LARD

[Dry em]

Bet/fold the turn with top 2 pair and only 1.5x pot effective stacks is just massive spew. This is a pretty obvious bet/call imo so I'm guessing from the presence of this thread you probably got snap-shoved on by a flush and are wondering if you got owned. I think it's just a cooler tho, ul.

Can't really see many live players check raising turn here and top 2 being any good....

[pleno1]

Yeah, if we get raised we have to fold, beating nothing, he pot controls like 90% of his range and value shoves the other 10%

[MANTIS01]

I agree the flop bet is too big. I know you're trying to thin the field but the speculative limpers hoping to catch a flop will release their hands pretty easy if your image is solid. You can take that bet down to 1/2 pot and you'll still get the same result. There is no urgency to turn our own speculative limp into a big pot situation here. And we wouldn't bet that much with the top of our range either. I think the problem with paying a lot to thin the field in these multi-way pots is you still don't know what you've thinned it down to. Having paid a high price for this shit information the pot is 35k and our oppo has 50k and our choices are limited. Check behind and call river imo.

[AlexMartin]

v 90% of the field bet fold turn. think i prefer check back tbh, might be a bit hindsight and need a bit more player info.