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« on: December 23, 2009, 06:34:46 PM »

Ok so I had just won this pot where I had played Aces kinda sneakily, flatting a raise preflop, flatting a bet on the flop, checking the turn and getting paid off on the river. I haven't open raised for a good hour, and I would think my image is kind of passive because I had been playing a fair amount of pots, and repeatedly flopping air.

Anyhoo, I raise in mid position at 150/300 to 800, and get 3 bet by the button to 2200. He'd been fairly active and quite aggressive, but selectively so.

I started the hand with 37k, he started it with about 30k.

I opt to call, which I think is fine even though we're out of position?

Flop comes down two hearts . I check, he bets small, about 2700. I call.

Turn is the . I check, he checks behind.

River is the three clubs, putting 4 to a straight on the board. The would have been a nicer card! I lead out for about 4k. He thinks for about a minute, and moves all in for 26k ish.

I tank and end up folding. In reflection I think the hand plays out kind of standardly, but I think the fact there are 4 cards to a straight on the river makes it kind of interesting, and also his check on the turn is confusing if he has us beat.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 06:48:34 PM »

I dunno buddy. You've got to figure that an aggro oppo with position is going mean a tough enough pot to win when you miss. If you bin your hand when you hit as well I don't see how the pre-flop call is fine. How are you going to turn a profit with this hand? If all I know about villain is he's aggressive I'm calling this I think.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 06:57:23 PM »

Snapping here.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 07:08:51 PM »

snapping his face off
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2009, 07:17:30 PM »

shove the flop to maximise ur fold energy
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2009, 08:22:49 PM »

Yeah I see your point Mantis.

Surprised you all snap here, what hand overshoves that we beat?

Unless he's trying to get us to fold an ace.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2009, 08:37:54 PM »

Yeah I see your point Mantis.

Surprised you all snap here, what hand overshoves that we beat?

Unless he's trying to get us to fold an ace.

In all honesty I think I lack basic respect for random aggro live players. I don't think we've shown particular strength in the hand and we've been repeatedly bet off pots at the table before. By contrast this guy is getting success from being aggro. I think that's enough in itself to pay to see the cooler. Once you get to breaking down the hand analytically you could already be streets ahead of villain in your thinking.
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2009, 09:07:42 PM »

I fold but im a nit
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2009, 10:17:44 PM »

Yeah I see your point Mantis.

Surprised you all snap here, what hand overshoves that we beat?

Unless he's trying to get us to fold an ace.

What hand thinks it's going to get called here by overshoving?
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2009, 10:22:00 PM »

 
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2009, 10:27:30 PM »

tough one.... did he reveal his hand at all or give an indication afterwards?


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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 11:15:05 PM »

Who is villain?

Think I call here
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 01:03:11 AM »

Meh, I call here but I'm not fistpumping. We're most likely good esp given the table dynamics as described but we are gonna see the cooler here occasionally.

I also fold pre. I do like scs but not really heads up oop in a 3bet pot.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2009, 02:43:33 AM »

You'd think if villain bet  small on the flop he'd do the same on the turn. Then he opens up the possibility for us to get our chips in by raising with a wide range. The way he's played it means we can only call all-in with a very small % of our range instead. What with hero being passive, not opening pots, and even playing aces slowly villain can't think trap-checking the turn induces hero to be action jamming chips into the pot come the river.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2009, 03:54:43 PM »

Random player thinks his AJ "just got there" - has to be a consideration.  He has probably already discounted your flush (or not even thought about it)

Meh, I call.
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