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« on: December 29, 2009, 02:14:02 PM »

Starting stack 10k. level 2. Blinds 50-100. I have 9.5k. villain has 8.5k.

1 early limper, villain makes it 450 from late position, the blinds fold, I am on the button with .

I make it 13,25 to go, limper folds, villain calls.


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Villain checks, My best move is?
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2009, 02:18:16 PM »

C-bet something like 800, i wouldn't be unhappy about getting raised as I am quite happy to 3 bet all in with the nut flush and possible some a/k outs.

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2009, 02:31:13 PM »

C-bet something like 800, i wouldn't be unhappy about getting raised as I am quite happy to 3 bet all in with the nut flush and possible some a/k outs.




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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2009, 02:36:04 PM »

Try and build the pot now. I may sometimes check back for deception if I think I can get money in on later streets but Longy's line sounds good. May C bet a bit bigger tho. Something around 1250
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2009, 02:38:46 PM »

C-bet something like 800, i wouldn't be unhappy about getting raised as I am quite happy to 3 bet all in with the nut flush and possible some a/k outs.

pot is nearly 3k, why do you want to bet so small? I'm cbetting about 1/2 pot here
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2009, 02:46:48 PM »

C-bet something like 800, i wouldn't be unhappy about getting raised as I am quite happy to 3 bet all in with the nut flush and possible some a/k outs.

pot is nearly 3k, why do you want to bet so small? I'm cbetting about 1/2 pot here

Sigh completely misread thought the pot was 1325.

Ok bet 1.8k and call a jam/3bet all in.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2009, 02:58:10 PM »

Any info on player?  Any good or not?

Generally I lead here just over half pot and wouldnt reaqlly hestitate getting it in so long as I was the one getting my chips in first.  Very hard for villain to call a 4 bet shove here.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2009, 03:07:13 PM »

Any info on player?  Any good or not?

Generally I lead here just over half pot and wouldnt reaqlly hestitate getting it in so long as I was the one getting my chips in first.  Very hard for villain to call a 4 bet shove here.

I would go as far as to say it was impossible.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2009, 03:07:48 PM »

Bet around 1600-1900 on flop, and call a shove. I doubt hes going to raise-fold the flop here having only 8.5k to start the hand with and after our flop bet he has about 5.5k back.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2009, 03:14:03 PM »

Thoughts on smoothing the raise pre pls?
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2009, 03:15:04 PM »

Thoughts on smoothing the raise pre pls?

Yeah, i may do this. But as played the above ^
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 03:15:30 PM »

Bet around 1600-1900 on flop, and call a shove. I doubt hes going to raise-fold the flop here having only 8.5k to start the hand with and after our flop bet he has about 5.5k back.

Think your under estimate just how bad the average live £100 player is.

Plenty will raise a c bet of 1.1k to 3k and then fold to a shove.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2009, 03:16:17 PM »

Thoughts on smoothing the raise pre pls?

He cant smooth a raise once he has raised.  You cant undo action.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2009, 03:17:20 PM »

Any info on player?  Any good or not?

Generally I lead here just over half pot and wouldnt reaqlly hestitate getting it in so long as I was the one getting my chips in first.  Very hard for villain to call a 4 bet shove here.

I would go as far as to say it was impossible.

This is a £100 live donkament.  More than likely someone to call off here with 99 and then tell a mate "well how can I fold 99 on a 6 high board"
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2009, 03:19:47 PM »

Bet around 1600-1900 on flop, and call a shove. I doubt hes going to raise-fold the flop here having only 8.5k to start the hand with and after our flop bet he has about 5.5k back.

Think your under estimate just how bad the average live £100 player is.

Plenty will raise a c bet of 1.1k to 3k and then fold to a shove.

lol, true. Ok, if hes got an sort of ability he shouldn't be.
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