strange hand from aussie millions main event

[NigDawG]

hero is the big stack on the table with ~100k @ 300/600/75, been playing fairly aggro preflop and have been shown to cbet most flops (possibly 100% so far?) when called, either taking it down there and then or checking down after called. of my few showdowns did have to showdown A5cc as my first raise on the table i think a while ago but tbh not many of my hands are getting to showdown.

villain is a young german guy in a hoody who's been particularly active but he plays well. has opened alot/3bet alot/occasional 4bet preflop, but also flatted quite a few hands when either of his two young compatriots have opened in the two seats to his immediate right before him. again not many of his hands are getting to showdown but he is confident in taking flops and is sat on around 40k at the start of the hand. i think this is actually the first heads up pot we have played with hero in position (think i've called 2 of his raises from the blinds before now with pp's and c/f broadway boards)

hero opens  to 1425 from mid position and villain flats from the bb fairly quickly

flop:    villain leads for 2375 into ~3.5k, hero calls

turn              villain leads 4450 into ~8k, hero calls

river              villain leads 14.5k into ~17k, hero folds, thoughts?

[pleno1]

Sounds like a good young aggro player. Could definitely be leading the flop super strong trying to build a pot, we do have lots of chips and we are drawing to the nuts, nevermind the face that we have an overpair. I like to play the flop pretty aggresively, espeically with the metagame between two good players. He is leading and probably expects you to raise a lot of the time, so I think we can profitably get it in on the flop after he has donked.

As played the river is really tough, if he did have a hand like q10/aq/ even  I don't think he would bet 14.5k (half his stack on a value bet) More likely to bet 9-12k/ c/c imo. Nevertheless I can't really see how AA can be good in this spot, so as played I fold the river.

[outragous76]

I probably raise the flop to test the villains strength as I agree with Pleno he could be building the pot. - Also happy to take it down here

as played i prob spew call hoping he shows Jx

[titaniumbean]

I probably raise the flop to test the villains strength as I agree with Pleno he could be building the pot. - Also happy to take it down here

as played i prob spew call hoping he shows Jx

If you raise and he 3bets are you folding or trying to bink a club? I think flatting the flop with the in our hand is kinda mandatory. I also think if I was playing well i'd fold river.

[pleno1]

I probably raise the flop to test the villains strength as I agree with Pleno he could be building the pot. - Also happy to take it down here

as played i prob spew call hoping he shows Jx

Yeah but raise folding the flop is tez.

[outragous76]

im bad - im probably getting it in if he raises enough to effectively make it our only move

the only other hand he 4 bets  is a set surely? Or maybe Qx whcih we obv arent concerned about. 2 pr hands arent that far ahead (if even ahead?) nor making that play

[pleno1]

im bad - im probably getting it in if he raises enough to effectively make it our only move

the only other hand he 4 bets  is a set surely? Or maybe Qx whcih we obv arent concerned about. 2 pr hands arent that far ahead (if even ahead?) nor making that play

2 pairs are ahead, and it would be a 3bet on the flop, not a 4bet. I just thought metagame between two good players would make it profitable to get it in after the aggro guy donk leads.

[titaniumbean]

He's good so he'll be leading for a reason, either to scare us meta game wise into just folding our air, or because he has a hand for value and wants to build the pot and have the chance of getting raised and getting a huge proportion of his stack in on the flop. He probably has a frush when he b3b shoves.

[outragous76]

im bad - im probably getting it in if he raises enough to effectively make it our only move

the only other hand he 4 bets  is a set surely? Or maybe Qx whcih we obv arent concerned about. 2 pr hands arent that far ahead (if even ahead?) nor making that play

2 pairs are ahead, and it would be a 3bet on the flop, not a 4bet. I just thought metagame between two good players would make it profitable to get it in after the aggro guy donk leads.

we are a fav to improve against 2 pr - i havent put it in a calc - but at  worst we are flipping

like i said he does this with a min of a set if he has a hand. for 40k of our 100k stack i just dont think it is that bad getting it in here (or at least raising his flop bet)

[George2Loose]

Think your line is fine. River is obv tough but agree with titbeam- if you're playing well you can find a fold here.

If he is capable enough of folding a small flush I might turn my hand into bluff and check/raise turn to pot bet/shove river with the bare  obv this is a high risk play and probably spewy in the long run

[titaniumbean]

I think calling turn folding river is better than fine and against a v good player probably the best line, we haz nut blocker tho can always move in on river

[NigDawG]

i was considering shoving river, and if he had started the hand with 60k+ and taken this same line i probably would of done

[Cottonbud]

You played it fine, Good fold. Nice stack in the main event Bramm GL!

[pleno1]

i was considering shoving river, and if he had started the hand with 60k+ and taken this same line i probably would of done

I find this so interesting. Really good that you see that turning your hand into a bluff here would be better than "bluffcatching" At this point what exact range did you put your oppo on? And what do you think he folds if he has 60k and had taken the same line and you shoved?

[NoflopsHomer]

Wasn't Benny Spindler by any chance? Looks like the emo smiley on Skype?