F1 - 2010

[77dave]

Great reprise of Schumacher's career by the Beeb today. So basically, they think he's a big fucking cheat then?  

are they wrong?

[fatshaft]

Not imo no, just amazed they had Becker fronting it, thought 'oh here we go', and then they actualy proceded to rip him to bits.

I was surprised and delighted in equal measures 

[Rod]

Well on Betfair I have

Alonso to win @ 4.4 - I think he will run better than Vettel late in the race. Bit dissapointed he is behind Massa though.

Massa to lead at the end of lap one @ 9.2

Seems reasonably good value. He only needs to be leading at the end of lap one, one time in nine for this to make a profit.

I have also layed all of the following to finish:-

Alonso @ 1.14
Hamilton @ 1.16
Vettel @ 1.18
Shumacher @ 1.17
Button @ 1.17
Rosberg @ 1.14

So basically I make a very small profit if one of them fails to finish plus more if more than one drops out. Will also be looking for good bets in running.

[Rod]

Well on Betfair I have

Alonso to win @ 4.4 - I think he will run better than Vettel late in the race. Bit dissapointed he is behind Massa though.

Massa to lead at the end of lap one @ 9.2

Seems reasonably good value. He only needs to be leading at the end of lap one, one time in nine for this to make a profit.

I have also layed all of the following to finish:-

Alonso @ 1.14
Hamilton @ 1.16
Vettel @ 1.18
Shumacher @ 1.17
Button @ 1.17
Rosberg @ 1.14

So basically I make a very small profit if one of them fails to finish plus more if more than one drops out. Will also be looking for good bets in running.

Got away with one there. Goods start for Ferrari but Red Bull look really good. I think Vettel would have held on if not for his engine breaking. Will be checking out Webbers odds before the start of the next one in two weeks time. Vettel will be second favourite to win it but as Webber was not too far behind him in a lot of races last season you might get some value i him.

[Karabiner]

Is it just me or have they made F1 really boring by cutting out refuelling this season ?

[MPOWER]

Is it just me or have they made F1 really boring by cutting out refuelling this season ?

Your right Ralph this was the biggest anti climax to the start of a season I can remember.


Boring Boring Boring.

Good Luck to BMW Sauber I hope that Ferrari Engine works well.   

Regards

M

[TightEnd]

I have to agree with this

The latest regulations mean the drivers spend most of the race saving their tyres and unable to push. Against this, lack of traction control should make it a truer driving test but only if the tyres actually degrade a bit!


The only regulation really required is something to restrict aerodynamics on the cars. As it is a driver can close to within a second of the car in front and then stands no chance of wheel to wheel racing (asssuming equal power) as the dirty air makes it impossible


Still looks like a great season to me because of the characters involved, but the powers that be certainly don't help the spectacle

[Rod]

I have to agree with this

The latest regulations mean the drivers spend most of the race saving their tyres and unable to push. Against this, lack of traction control should make it a truer driving test but only if the tyres actually degrade a bit!


The only regulation really required is something to restrict aerodynamics on the cars. As it is a driver can close to within a second of the car in front and then stands no chance of wheel to wheel racing (asssuming equal power) as the dirty air makes it impossible


Still looks like a great season to me because of the characters involved, but the powers that be certainly don't help the spectacle

I am wondering if tyre wear might come into play and help make some of the races more exciting. It was quite good until Vettel had the problem and I think Alonso probably would have got past him. Just going by that race Red Bull look faster at the start (they can go lighter) but Ferrari seemed to be quicker on the harder tyres so will catch up towards the end. There could yet be some hope for a competitive season with some great action on the track.

[Josedinho]

Hopefully it rains every race. Only way i can see it getting interest.

[TheChipPrince]

What was the reason for cutting out re-fueling?

[sovietsong]

What was the reason for cutting out re-fueling?

the teams can't afford the fuel, too expensive.  that or global warming.

[EvilPie]

What was the reason for cutting out re-fueling?

Encourages overtaking because you can't just wait and do it via the pits.

Faster cars could just wait until someone refueled then do 2 quick laps and pass them without having to do any work. Now they have to be fast enough on track to actually overtake them.

Unfortunately they can't because of what Tighty has said above.

Should be interesting at Monaco and Hungary where you just can't pass no matter what.

Also it should make qualifying more interesting because you know that all the cars are on a full fuel load. Unfortunately it makes the race less interesting because you know whoever is on pole is going to blitz the race. With refueling allowed at least you could guess that someone was maybe heavy or light which could mean the guy on pole had no chance of actually winning.

On an environmental note it encourages fuel efficiency. As we saw at Bahrain the Red Bull car can start with 10k less fuel because it's efficient. 10k is equivalent to about 0.4 s per lap which enabled the one with a good driver in it to do really well.

[EvilPie]

What was the reason for cutting out re-fueling?

the teams can't afford the fuel, too expensive.  that or global warming.

That's actually not too far from one of the reasons. Obviously the fuel cost isn't an issue but transporting 12 refueling rigs (1 per team) + a spare refueling rig for every team isn't exactly cheap.

Also the FIA shouldered responsibility for the refueling rigs to ensure that they were all the same but all the costs were passed on to the teams.

Teams need to make cut backs. The sport needs to make cut backs. Ban refueling and save millions. Simple.

They claim it's to improve the racing but surely that can't be the reason because as we saw in Bahrain it clearly doesn't.

[gatso]

Should be interesting at Monaco and Hungary where you just can't pass no matter what.

they might as well just award the points based on qualifying and give everyone the sunday off

[EvilPie]

Should be interesting at Monaco and Hungary where you just can't pass no matter what.

they might as well just award the points based on qualifying and give everyone the sunday off

Did I say interesting? I meant to say something entirely different

Yeah these races could be really bad. Even tyre wear won't be an issue because you can hold people up and save them for as long as you need to.

You may even find teams short fuelling to gain extra tenths in qualifying because they know they haven't actually got to race on Sunday.