"Clock please"

[Longines]

Should a dealer ever call for the clock? Reading the DTD update thread I was surprised to see this suggested - it's similar to a dealer announcing possible winning hands in terms of being an unacceptable external influence IMHO.

I have less of an issue with other players on the table calling the clock (given a reasonable period has elapsed) - it's their cash on the line and the blinds are increasing etc. etc. Thinking about it, I'd even have less of an issue with a player from another table calling for the clock than the dealer.

Flame away...

[Claw75]

I've not seen the post on the update thread, but agree with you 100%. I can't see any circumstances where it would be acceptable for the dealer to call the clock.

[GreekStein]

think it's fine imo.

too many people take too long.

[Claw75]

think it's fine imo.

too many people take too long.

would you think it was fine if you were sitting there with the nuts, dealer calls the clock on someone dwelling up, and they fold?

[thetank]

too many people take too long.

Call the clock on them then.

Unless you have a job as a dealer obv, in that case it wouldn't be appropriate for a whole bunch of obvious reasons.

[Cf]

Every table should have a second member of staff who is holding a stopwatch which they constantly reset to 10 seconds when it's someone's turn. Every player gets 1 extra 20 second extension to use, which is given back every time the blinds go up.

That'd suit me

As for OP. No, dealer shouldn't call clock. Players have every right to though and I don't see why people kick up such a fuss when it's done. Think the longest I ever took was about 2 minutes and that was for a massive pot. I'm usually happy to leave people to it but I'd rather they got a move on.

[GreekStein]

think it's fine imo.

too many people take too long.

would you think it was fine if you were sitting there with the nuts, dealer calls the clock on someone dwelling up, and they fold?

that would be fine with me.

If they fold after a clock they're probably folding anyway. (the longer ppl take the more likely they are to fold).

Bothers me much more when some knobend who's not in the hand think's it's his place to call the clock after a minute and ten seconds.

By the same token Clare, I wouldn't tip the dealer if I was sitting their sweating my tits off with an air ball and they folded, but nice wording of the question.

[77dave]

Although i agree dealers cant and shouldnt call a clock on players, i do think that dealers should be more in contol of the action and prompt a player for a decision if he is taking too long. Some players dont realise just how long they take so a little word from the dealer can help things along

[thetank]

Last time I took as long as 2 minutes on a desicion was outside a registry office.

[GreekStein]

Dealer probably has the most rational understanding, given the situation, pot etc (let's just call them factors - tank x) of what is a rational amount of time.

I'm not entirely keen on it when a player not in the pot calls the clock if it's on a hand im in. The player making the decision is unlikely to call it on himself and the other player in the hand may want to call it but may not want to say anything so as not to give anything off.

[Colchester Kev]

Last time I took as long as 2 minutes on a desicion was outside a registry office.

Show love for this post please people

[77dave]

Imagine if Sir Alex Ferguson was in charge of clock decsions

[Claw75]

think it's fine imo.

too many people take too long.

would you think it was fine if you were sitting there with the nuts, dealer calls the clock on someone dwelling up, and they fold?

that would be fine with me.

If they fold after a clock they're probably folding anyway. (the longer ppl take the more likely they are to fold).

Bothers me much more when some knobend who's not in the hand think's it's his place to call the clock after a minute and ten seconds.

By the same token Clare, I wouldn't tip the dealer if I was sitting their sweating my tits off with an air ball and they folded, but nice wording of the question.

the point is that the dealer shouldn't be influencing decisions in any way. Yes someone else not in the hand calling the clock after a short period of time can be galling, especially if they are not under immediate threat from the blinds, but we've all seen players who agonise over decisions for longer than is acceptable over and over again. Had some guy in a 20 minute crapshoot recently take over 5 minutes three times (in fact he said afterwards it was a deliberate tactic so he coud get an idea of his opponent's strength by seeing if they called a clock on him) , in which case I think it's totally within the right of any player at the table to call a clock. But never the dealer.

[vegaslover]

Last time I took as long as 2 minutes on a desicion was outside a registry office.

Only 2 mins, bit of a hasty decision IMO

[gatso]

so what if every player on a table  is happy to watch the clock run down and they just sit there for 1/2 hour? surely you reach a point where the dealer needs to at least get the tds attention