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« Reply #3195 on: December 08, 2011, 12:55:58 AM »

Pleased with the grind today, good volume and played well, ran pretty bad in all stakes though and continued to fail hu, twice had epic long battles to finally get it in ahead in both and both times get rivered, sighhhh. Did a small session with James yday mostly looking at hu just incase I had any leaks but everything looked fine, obv just a small hu sample.

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« Reply #3196 on: December 08, 2011, 01:20:14 AM »

Can someone that believes in the power of positive thinking please explain to me what it is they actually believe in, by that I mean you surely don't believe that just by thinking positively more things go your way ? I get that if your positive then your outlooks different so you put yourself in better situations etc etc but... It's just something I think about quite regularly but don't really have an opinion on it due to not really being able to work out the concept of it, for instance say I'm running good and have won the last 4 sessions and I'm running good in the current session then I do find myself expecting to get there whereas when it's the opposite I expect to lose, but that has no effect on the outcome, ofc. I'd say in life I'm pretty lucky and I do think I'm a pretty positive person, probably more positive then I maybe come across on here, as far as SNG's go I think I've had neither bad luck or good luck as I've grinded so many of them that it's all equaled out, as far as live poker goes I've clearly been lucky.  
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« Reply #3197 on: December 08, 2011, 02:25:33 AM »

don't believe any of it.
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« Reply #3198 on: December 08, 2011, 02:29:57 AM »

don't believe any of it.

That's the thing I don't understand though, what is it that people believe ? Surely people aren't seriously suggesting for instance if you think your going to win then you will win, that obv isn't possibly true.
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« Reply #3199 on: December 08, 2011, 02:39:44 AM »

loads of ppl believe in karma, which i think is bs as well.

i believe in doing good things for ppl and selfless acts etc, but not cos i think that'll mean good things happen to me.
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« Reply #3200 on: December 08, 2011, 02:45:20 AM »

loads of ppl believe in karma, which i think is bs as well.

i believe in doing good things for ppl and selfless acts etc, but not cos i think that'll mean good things happen to me.

Yeah I agree with all of that. Are there any selfless acts though 
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« Reply #3201 on: December 08, 2011, 02:48:09 AM »

Can someone that believes in the power of positive thinking please explain to me what it is they actually believe in, by that I mean you surely don't believe that just by thinking positively more things go your way ? I get that if your positive then your outlooks different so you put yourself in better situations etc etc but... It's just something I think about quite regularly but don't really have an opinion on it due to not really being able to work out the concept of it, for instance say I'm running good and have won the last 4 sessions and I'm running good in the current session then I do find myself expecting to get there whereas when it's the opposite I expect to lose, but that has no effect on the outcome, ofc. I'd say in life I'm pretty lucky and I do think I'm a pretty positive person, probably more positive then I maybe come across on here, as far as SNG's go I think I've had neither bad luck or good luck as I've grinded so many of them that it's all equaled out, as far as live poker goes I've clearly been lucky.  

I believe that your thinking drives your reality - the only way you can change belief patterns - which are in fact thoughts and subconscious patterns developed from birth and subsequent prisoner /  victims cycles (these can be positive and negative)is to change your thinking. I believe to apply solely to something like poker is challenging, but when applied to how you live your life i believe does have positive impact.  If you're genuinely interested can recommend a couple of books that yiu may read and say Shaun's on another planet, or you may get some useful insights.
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« Reply #3202 on: December 08, 2011, 02:50:32 AM »

don't believe any of it.

That's the thing I don't understand though, what is it that people believe ? Surely people aren't seriously suggesting for instance if you think your going to win then you will win, that obv isn't possibly true.

Maybe not, but if you think you're going to lose you won't win for sure
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« Reply #3203 on: December 08, 2011, 02:53:56 AM »

Can someone that believes in the power of positive thinking please explain to me what it is they actually believe in, by that I mean you surely don't believe that just by thinking positively more things go your way ? I get that if your positive then your outlooks different so you put yourself in better situations etc etc but... It's just something I think about quite regularly but don't really have an opinion on it due to not really being able to work out the concept of it, for instance say I'm running good and have won the last 4 sessions and I'm running good in the current session then I do find myself expecting to get there whereas when it's the opposite I expect to lose, but that has no effect on the outcome, ofc. I'd say in life I'm pretty lucky and I do think I'm a pretty positive person, probably more positive then I maybe come across on here, as far as SNG's go I think I've had neither bad luck or good luck as I've grinded so many of them that it's all equaled out, as far as live poker goes I've clearly been lucky.  

I believe that your thinking drives your reality - the only way you can change belief patterns - which are in fact thoughts and subconscious patterns developed from birth and subsequent prisoner /  victims cycles (these can be positive and negative)is to change your thinking. I believe to apply solely to something like poker is challenging, but when applied to how you live your life i believe does have positive impact.  If you're genuinely interested can recommend a couple of books that yiu may read and say Shaun's on another planet, or you may get some useful insights.

I am generally interested, link me up plz.
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« Reply #3204 on: December 08, 2011, 02:56:07 AM »

don't believe any of it.

That's the thing I don't understand though, what is it that people believe ? Surely people aren't seriously suggesting for instance if you think your going to win then you will win, that obv isn't possibly true.

Maybe not, but if you think you're going to lose you won't win for sure

Well yeah I agree with that if you are referring to something like poker, obv something like the lottery there will be a lot of people who've won who didn't believe they ever would. I don't have any thoughts about winning or losing until after I've made all my decisions based on what is correct in the situation.

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« Reply #3205 on: December 08, 2011, 03:05:29 AM »

don't believe any of it.

That's the thing I don't understand though, what is it that people believe ? Surely people aren't seriously suggesting for instance if you think your going to win then you will win, that obv isn't possibly true.

Maybe not, but if you think you're going to lose you won't win for sure

what an allin? or just generally in poker?
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« Reply #3206 on: December 08, 2011, 03:07:50 AM »

Thinking or not thinking your going to win has no bearing directly on the outcome of any event ldo. Yet it certainly can help you perform better, which in turn should lead to better results.

Boxing is the best example I can think of, there is massive amount psychological warfare. If a boxer doesn't believe he can win a fight it is pretty much over there and then.
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« Reply #3207 on: December 08, 2011, 03:13:52 AM »

I believe in positive thinking, I don't think I could do my job very well if I didn't have that mindset. I think having a positive frame of mind, demeanour and conversations with people can influence people in your direction especially if they are sat on the fence.

Not sure of its uses in poker though, I guess if you could use it to even mood swings out, it might help you tilt less I guess. Actually, it could probably easily be intertwined with confidence too, I doubt any poker player would say they don't play better when they are confident, so I guess it may have more uses than I first thought, I dunno. Can't do any harm that's for sure, and it will probably make you a nicer person to hang around instead of a whiney moper (not saying you are currently).

Not gonna make the cards fall your way though obv.
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« Reply #3208 on: December 08, 2011, 03:21:00 AM »

Thinking or not thinking your going to win has no bearing directly on the outcome of any event ldo. Yet it certainly can help you perform better, which in turn should lead to better results.

Boxing is the best example I can think of, there is massive amount psychological warfare. If a boxer doesn't believe he can win a fight it is pretty much over there and then.

Tyson is the perfect example for that, he said in a programme that he did recently that he could see it in his opponents eyes that they already knew they where going to lose.

I assumed Shaun meant that there are some players who don't make the correct plays because they feel they're unlucky so for instance they will just open jam 30bbs with Aces as they don't want action as they always lose with them or something like that.
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« Reply #3209 on: December 08, 2011, 03:24:47 AM »

I believe in positive thinking, I don't think I could do my job very well if I didn't have that mindset. I think having a positive frame of mind, demeanour and conversations with people can influence people in your direction especially if they are sat on the fence.

Not sure of its uses in poker though, I guess if you could use it to even mood swings out, it might help you tilt less I guess. Actually, it could probably easily be intertwined with confidence too, I doubt any poker player would say they don't play better when they are confident, so I guess it may have more uses than I first thought, I dunno. Can't do any harm that's for sure, and it will probably make you a nicer person to hang around instead of a whiney moper (not saying you are currently).

Not gonna make the cards fall your way though obv.

Haha, I hope I'm not anyway  Tongue

I definitely think confidence when your playing is important.
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