Did DTD make a bad ruling?

[Cf]

I think they did...

We're on the turn in a hand, the details of which are irrelevant.

Player A bets 2100.

Player B announces raise and throws in 2500 (2x1000, 1x500) then a further 4000 (4x1000).

Floor rule this as a min raise.


Seems a pretty clear raise to 6500 to me. Something about the 2500 being more than the 2100 required to call. He didn't have any change obv otherwise he'd have put in 2100.

[gatso]

spot on ruling imo

Player A bets 2100.

Player B announces raise and throws in 2500 (2x1000, 1x500)

that is a min raise. anything he does after that is irrelevant, he's already minraised

[Colchester Kev]

I agree ... Count your chips out behind the line and put the lot in at once, it aint difficult ffs.

really tilts me when players announce "raise", then put the call in and dwell for ages trying to decide how much to raise.

Correct ruling.

[Cf]

spot on ruling imo

Player A bets 2100.

Player B announces raise and throws in 2500 (2x1000, 1x500)

that is a min raise. anything he does after that is irrelevant, he's already minraised

But how is this a min raise? If you announce raise beforehand you can make two movements into the pot. The first to call and the second to put the raise amount in.

How is 2500 considered a min raise over the 2100? In any other situation this would be a clear cut call.

[Cf]

I agree ... Count your chips out behind the line and put the lot in at once, it aint difficult ffs.

really tilts me when players announce "raise", then put the call in and dwell for ages trying to decide how much to raise.

Correct ruling.

yeah it tilts me too lol, just not convinced that the raise shouldn't have stood.

[gatso]

But how is this a min raise? If you announce raise beforehand you can make two movements into the pot. The first to call and the second to put the raise amount in.

How is 2500 considered a min raise over the 2100? In any other situation this would be a clear cut call.

ignore the second movement. if you say raise then put an amount of more than a call but less than a raise in the middle then it's a min raise, never a call

do what you like after that, put more chips in, stand in the middle of the table doing a banana dance, I really don't care, it's not going to change the fact that you just did a minraise

[TightEnd]

correct ruling


what would be the time penalty for standing in the middle of the table doing a banana dance please?

[gatso]

depends if you touch the pot with your banana feet. that would be a 1 rounder, just doing the dance without disturbing anything is probs just a warning for a first offence

[Dewi_cool]

ruling is good

[The Camel]

Ruling is wrong imo.

As long as the guy clearly said "raise" before putting the 2500 in I think it's pretty obvious his intent is to call the 2100 and raise 4000.

To the letter of the law the ruling might be correct, but common sense should overrule any rule in poker imo.

[Colchester Kev]

The raiser should be given a 74 round penalty for being too stupid to just say "Raise to 6100 total"

[titaniumbean]

what would be the time penalty for standing in the middle of the table doing a banana dance please?

you'd be my hero sir. that's enough!

[EvilPie]

Ruling is wrong imo.

As long as the guy clearly said "raise" before putting the 2500 in I think it's pretty obvious his intent is to call the 2100 and raise 4000.

To the letter of the law the ruling might be correct, but common sense should overrule any rule in poker imo.

How do we know his intention wasn't to call the 2100 and raise 4400?

I don't think his intention is clear at all.

Does he now want 400 change from his call? Or is the change from his raise?

[EvilPie]

I agree ... Count your chips out behind the line and put the lot in at once, it aint difficult ffs.

really tilts me when players announce "raise", then put the call in and dwell for ages trying to decide how much to raise.

Correct ruling.

I often do this. Thanks for confirming that my action is tilting. I was worried that I might be wasting my time.

[gatso]

How is 2500 considered a min raise over the 2100? In any other situation this would be a clear cut call.

example please of one of these any other situations in which saying raise before putting in chips is a clear cut call