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« Reply #105 on: February 25, 2010, 02:20:21 AM »

Don't love the shove with no FE tbh. You are being called 100% of the time and are behind 90% or more of the time.

15 to 20 bigs deffo shove because better hands will fold. Once you're down to 10 you really need to be first in to the pot without a premium.

Just my personal preference for playing the short stack.
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« Reply #106 on: February 25, 2010, 07:55:50 AM »

Think the qj on the end is a fold against utg raisor, unless he is uber loose.

You have no fold equity and are quite a bit behind his range, not a lot going for it really.

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« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2010, 04:40:22 PM »

Misread by me last night.

It was henrik not Whisper who dug up the rakeback nonsense. For some reason I thought Whisper brought it up and henrik piley-ed on.

Apologies Whisper. Noise us up by pm if you want a 50:50 stake tonight into something.
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« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2010, 11:22:50 PM »

Is it all about fold equity in this spot though???

I understand there might not be much fold equity here but I felt it was a gamble I had to take if I wanted to go deep and chip up- I had no interest in laddering to the next pay bracket and with blinds and ante's felt I was starting to get blinded away!

Also the table, never mind this single player, was super aggro so I did think there was a chance I could get him to fold

Or is this just totally flawed thinking?
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« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2010, 11:25:28 PM »

he is folding approx 0% of his opening range in that position with those stack sizes
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« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2010, 11:31:06 PM »

he is folding approx 0% of his opening range in that position with those stack sizes

Ok so lets say we know this- what about the other point of getting blinded away at an aggro table- we're spending 32k(tourny life) to win 72k and put us back in top 80 with a good stack to play with?

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« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2010, 11:40:51 PM »

you're not desperate, you have 11x

either open shove or go over the top of a similar sized stack. making this play against the monster chipleader just looks suicidal
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« Reply #112 on: February 26, 2010, 12:39:47 AM »

he is folding approx 0% of his opening range in that position with those stack sizes

Ok so lets say we know this- what about the other point of getting blinded away at an aggro table- we're spending 32k(tourny life) to win 72k and put us back in top 80 with a good stack to play with?



At an aggro table you should never get down to 10 bigs. Once you get to 15 you should be looking to reshove against a wide ranged opener while you've got FE.

You might have good odds here but you're almosty always behind. There's 8k in the middle to be picked up without showing cards every hand if you can get in there first. You don't have to do that too often to get your 72k with much less risk of going out.
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« Reply #113 on: February 26, 2010, 08:14:12 AM »

there are loads of better spots than getting it in with QJ vs an UTG open with no FE.
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« Reply #114 on: February 26, 2010, 10:31:34 PM »

he is folding approx 0% of his opening range in that position with those stack sizes

Ok so lets say we know this- what about the other point of getting blinded away at an aggro table- we're spending 32k(tourny life) to win 72k and put us back in top 80 with a good stack to play with?





At an aggro table you should never get down to 10 bigs. Once you get to 15 you should be looking to reshove against a wide ranged opener while you've got FE.

You might have good odds here but you're almosty always behind. There's 8k in the middle to be picked up without showing cards every hand if you can get in there first. You don't have to do that too often to get your 72k with much less risk of going out.

I know this may seem pretty basic but whats my ranges for shoving when first in pot and from what positions? (on a very aggro table)
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