GUKPT Walsall vs Mickey Mahrenholz

[NigDawG]

still unsure about how i feel on this hand from the 1k main.

i don't think i actually have any relevant history with karl since we've only played like 3 times vs each other lifetime, but those times were either ages ago, plo or drunken sit n go's. even though we havent played together much we know each other and get on well and banter it up a bit.

without saying too much for obv reasons, i think he views me as laggy and i'd assumed he's solid maybe a touch nitty, but that's come from opinions of others. fwiw i def think he's capable of doing some oddball stuff vs me because of the banter/fact we know each other.

today karl has only been on the table 40 mins and neither he nor hero has done anything of note tho i'd been restricted by stack size during this time. interestingly karl had overlimped utg+1 with JJ early on with intentions of trapping me for my 16bb shove (only someone woke up with KK behind me). we haven't played any pots together, and i've only played one pot since my shove i think, which i took down on the button without showdown.

anyways, blinds 150/300 w/25

i open for 600 with from utg+1 playing 8 handed with an 11.5k stack
karl calls from the sb out of a ~25k stack and bb calls covering both of us.

flop 

they both check i bet 925, karl c/r to 2525, bb folds, hero shoves

thoughts?

[TheChipPrince]

Min-raise pre-flop?

[NigDawG]

Min-raise pre-flop?

don't really wanna get into this but yeh it's something i'm trying

[TheChipPrince]

Cool, whats ave stack?

Are you playing frustrated at all?  Sounds like your trying to make something happen.

Do you think you can shift him off a decent 10(+)x hands?

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Apart from the min pre, which you said is something your trying, I think its fine.

[GreekStein]

Min-raise pre-flop?

don't really wanna get into this but yeh it's something i'm trying

You want people to share strat with you but you don't wanna share it back?!

I pretty much play the hand the same way post flop. Prob fold pre though

[NoflopsHomer]

I don't think Karl is ever c/r folding here vs an UTG+1 open if you were LP I think this would be standard, his c/r looks designed to give you room to shove. Also if he had a 10-x hand, he's either c/calling the flop or c/r calling a shove.

[NigDawG]

Min-raise pre-flop?

don't really wanna get into this but yeh it's something i'm trying

You want people to share strat with you but you don't wanna share it back?!

I pretty much play the hand the same way post flop. Prob fold pre though

lol i hope ur joking i must of been one of the most frequent contributors to PHA in the last 3 months!

[GreekStein]

Min-raise pre-flop?

don't really wanna get into this but yeh it's something i'm trying

You want people to share strat with you but you don't wanna share it back?!

I pretty much play the hand the same way post flop. Prob fold pre though

lol i hope ur joking i must of been one of the most frequent contributors to PHA in the last 3 months!

Yeah bit tongue in cheek. I don't think you need to share insights into your own play when several people you might be playing against will read.

What type of hands do you think Karl is raising you with here?

[NigDawG]

yh floppy makes a good point which is how often is karl really c/r folding here

i was thinking he would be calling any Tx hand he would play this way, but tbh i didn't think he would be c/r Tx very often. i thought it was more likely a sign he had a draw like QJs/Q9s/J9s/97s/96s/76s/75s/65s and think he has to be suited or else it gets folded pre

edit: obv some of them shouldn't even be there at all pre, but yeh live pro's tsk tsk

[EvilPie]

If you're planning on getting them in is there any merit to calling the flop and jamming any turn?

Overcard may get rid of him if he has the 10 or if he's on a draw similar to yourself he isn't going to commit with 1 to come.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

If you're planning on getting them in is there any merit to calling the flop and jamming any turn?

Overcard may get rid of him if he has the 10 or if he's on a draw similar to yourself he isn't going to commit with 1 to come.

We aren't first to act on the turn.

[EvilPie]

If you're planning on getting them in is there any merit to calling the flop and jamming any turn?

Overcard may get rid of him if he has the 10 or if he's on a draw similar to yourself he isn't going to commit with 1 to come.

We aren't first to act on the turn.

Interesting observation

[Rookie (Rodney)]

If you're planning on getting them in is there any merit to calling the flop and jamming any turn?

Overcard may get rid of him if he has the 10 or if he's on a draw similar to yourself he isn't going to commit with 1 to come.

We aren't first to act on the turn.

Interesting observation

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[titaniumbean]

yh floppy makes a good point which is how often is karl really c/r folding here

i was thinking he would be calling any Tx hand he would play this way, but tbh i didn't think he would be c/r Tx very often. i thought it was more likely a sign he had a draw like QJs/Q9s/J9s/97s/96s/76s/75s/65s and think he has to be suited or else it gets folded pre

edit: obv some of them shouldn't even be there at all pre, but yeh live pro's tsk tsk

meh what sort of adjustment to his pre calling range do you think he'll make since you've minraised?

This is dirty, i'd probably shove flop and then realise instantly he's likely not folding, and be like, SPAAAADES PLS or make me a straight ta.


think it's a fold but I don't know how often i'd manage it