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« on: March 04, 2010, 02:49:31 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 03:05:16 PM »

Well the river's not made any difference to the strength of your hand so it looks like a call to me.

There's no way you can put him on anything specific because you've only played 3 similar hands and he's done the same with every one. Therefore you can only really play the strength of your hand and a pair no matter how small is pretty strong on this board HU

I think I have to show some aggression at some stage here to squeeze some value out of my pair. Possibly c/r flop or definitely turn as you suggest. I don't like the thought of donk betting. If we get raised we then get stuck calling off chunks oop which I hate doing.

If oppo stills comes out all guns blazing then I guess we end up laying down if we've taken a stronger line but as played I can't see anything other than call.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 04:18:44 PM »

villain expects you to call. so fold. simples.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2010, 04:21:40 PM »

yeah i fold here.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 04:05:47 PM »

Will have a bash at a few of these questions (though I'd never be in this game).

I'm pretty tempted to call the river, since our hand is pretty face-up and because he makes a small overbet ($420 into $390). I don't get why he'd make that bet for value - the fact of its being a overbet screams strength, so if you're overbetting for value then surely you might as well go with it and overbet big. Or alternatively bet half the pot or whatever and get called more often. This bet size looks like he wants to overbet but wants to do so as cheaply as possible.

On that basis I guess I'm calling bets of something like 75% of the pot through to small overbets, and folding to everything else.

The ideas for different lines on the turn are interesting - don't know what's best, and I imagine I'd feel I was getting myself into some pretty unpleasant spots here by doing it. But at the same time it feels like changing your perceived range somehow has to be a good thing (especially against this villain). I don't really get the idea of donking the turn to look strong though - maybe you can explain the benefits. Surely he's never folding any pair 88+?

Check-raising the turn I think I prefer, as it widens our range to include 7's and draws and gives us a simple line of turning our hand into a bluff on a lot of rivers. (All rivers? Or do we have to shut down on rivers of 2-3-4-6 at least if we get called on turn?) The pot's bigger than if we donk the turn, so he can't necessarily just call to showdown with 88+ so easily.

Attempted to answer some questions, but probably ended up asking more, and some of that's probably missed the point completely so sorry about that... Found the questions interesting though, so thanks for posting.

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 06:12:48 PM »

call

river is an overbet right?
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