£2/£5 NLH Live Pukeable river spot vs Nit.

[Mitch]

Keep it coming, I'm at DTD so will add a bit when I get home.

Oh and hope u don't find the NIT tag insulting ;-) 

[George2Loose]

Don't believe Chara. he had aces full.

[GreekStein]

so after 5 secs i threw in the 8 £100 chips in s stlyish manner that oozzed the NUTS an to be honest if anyone had the nuts an u did a survey in the uk they would show big charrra had the NUTS!

LOL! love it

[NigDawG]

lol love you charra

[The Camel]

Liar, liar pants on fire.

[Royal Flush]

SELL

[hatthehole]

lies make baby jesus cry

[Mitch]

Cheers Pete for the extended, uncut, full, detailed, explanation  

For the record, he really did have   as he showed after i had folded. Didnt want to reveal the hand as it obviously has a major impact on how people assess the hand.

Before i posted the hand on here i was thinking to myself that maybe i could have found a call simply due to the way he views my game and especially how he knows i view his. Glad to see the majority of people also pass the hand, even though obviously in this case it wasnt the correct fold. Istill think it would be 95% of the time!

Dont need to really add much more as 'Big Chara' has barely missed a detail. Anyone who has heard him chat can imagine himreading this all back without the need to take a single breath lol.

Only other thing is that i was pretty suprised a couple of people dont raise the river...

I see it as pretty standard in a cash game in this circumstance, especially as he is going to be giving me credit for a bluff here a lot of the time and call me with a bare ace playing the two eights on board and a queen kicker. He's also paying me off with AQ, AK hands and all smaller flushes. Pretty limiting to your game and easy for opponets to get a feel for your hand if your only raising boats here surely!?

[Mitch]

Also...

I later got Mitch to stack off wt   against my for another £650ish misreading my physical tells causing him to get it in pre ! I obviously  mentally drained him but im sure next time he will teach me a lesson.

• Tilt   

[Sack it off]

Two points I'd like to add;

IMO raise folding is ok.

Secondly I don't think you should start making loose calls because of how you think he thinks you perceive him.
If you get into those kind of realms of thinking you go beyond being a smart player and just become spewy.

You have made the most profitable move and forced your opponent to make an unprofitable bluff against you, as you know yourself the 2nd nut flush will be the bottom of your raising range on this river so the majority of the time you snap and he mucks.

[Royal Flush]

wow he played this hand ridic bad

[The Camel]

This whole thread is clearly a well planned attempt by Pete to get people to call him when he river shoves with the nuts.

wp gg.

[EvilPie]

I've only played Pete a couple of times and both were deepstack slow mtts.

Both times I've seen him take a very similar line and I was 100% convinced he had AA or QQ here.

He slow plays the hell out of big pairs and squeezes value out of them on every street from what I've seen.

I pass this hand 100% of the time. (I probably pass it pre actually but that's just me)

Also I hate the raise on the river. You say he's a nit so what do you expect him to call you with?

If you raise the river you should have had an easy decision here when he shoved on you because you should've pre planned on this being a possibility.

[Cf]

Might be repeating what others have said but...

Firstly I fold pre. I don't mind 3betting light in certain spots but against a nitty player opening from ep I think it's asking for trouble.

Like the flop bet, though I'm somewhat concerned when it's called. Expecting to see a decent A or 22. Not especially concerned about AA/QQ due to your preflop read - don't know the player but i imagine most would at least consider raising those hands.

Checking the turn is good. We're prob not good at this point and not sure we can get him to fold if he has one of the hands we think he has. Take the free river card.

On the river we hit our flush, but the board pairs. Well, i'm only really concerned about 22 at this point. Guess he might have had AdXd also. But once he bets I think we can only call. If he was getting trappy with 22 then he's got there. And if he was just calling and trying to see a river card with AdXd then that's got there. I don't see much value in raising - Ax can't really call, and boats/nf will just push over you putting you in this horrible spot. You might get some extra value from small flushes but that's about it.

As played I fold, unless I have some reason to think he's bluffing me.

[Cf]

Also, get the impression people might be trying to level themselves a bit too much in this thread. I don't consider this hand to be all that complex myself...