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Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
How can the English, the English of all people, criticise Scottish goalkeeping at this time? You possibly have the worst International goalkeepers in Europe.
lol, yeah I did kinda think this as I was typing but decided to continue as we def have had great 'keepers in the past
no idea where the scottish 'keeper thing comes from, I'd guess there was a time when yours were as bad as ours are now and it started then
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Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
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Quote from: Maxriddles on March 21, 2010, 11:14:10 PM
Not too well, most of them are over 50.
good point. add in the fact that they've got a scottish goalkeeper and they're really going to struggle
How can the English, the English of all people, criticise Scottish goalkeeping at this time? You possibly have the worst International goalkeepers in Europe.
I've also always wondered where this comes from, ok, England had possibly the best two keeepers in the world simultaneously in Clemence/Shilton, but Scotland had a run of great keepers too, Harvey, Goram and Leighton (his inexplicable poor spell at the end of his Utd career excepted). So where did the joke come from?
Alan Rough.
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Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
England had possibly the best two keeepers in the world simultaneously in Clemence/Shilton
just checked the dates and there was a period of a couple of years when these 2 were playing internationally and so were southall and leighton. that was a sick run of 'keepers in british footy, 2 of the world's greatest of all time and one who would go on to be the best and leighton who wasn't too shoddy all playing at once
must've been tough playing as a striker in the english 1st division back then, they would've been pleased that leighton mainly stayed north of the border
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Goram (much as it pains me)
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McLeish
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Quote from: gatso on March 22, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
England had possibly the best two keeepers in the world simultaneously in Clemence/Shilton
just checked the dates and there was a period of a couple of years when these 2 were playing internationally and so were southall and leighton. that was a sick run of 'keepers in british footy, 2 of the world's greatest of all time and one who would go on to be the best and leighton who wasn't too shoddy all playing at once
must've been tough playing as a striker in the english 1st division back then, they would've been pleased that leighton mainly stayed north of the border
Packie Bonner was playing at that time as well - a great keeper.
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I discounted bonner as he's irish. completely forgot that jennings was the NI 'keeper at the time though
so from 82-84 we had overlap in the 4 home nations plus ireland of shilton, clemence, southall, leighton, bonner and jennings
quite incredible really, won't ever see that again
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Quote from: Colchester Kev on March 22, 2010, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
Quote from: gatso on March 22, 2010, 08:27:48 AM
Quote from: Maxriddles on March 21, 2010, 11:14:10 PM
Not too well, most of them are over 50.
good point. add in the fact that they've got a scottish goalkeeper and they're really going to struggle
How can the English, the English of all people, criticise Scottish goalkeeping at this time? You possibly have the worst International goalkeepers in Europe.
I've also always wondered where this comes from, ok, England had possibly the best two keeepers in the world simultaneously in Clemence/Shilton, but Scotland had a run of great keepers too, Harvey, Goram and Leighton (his inexplicable poor spell at the end of his Utd career excepted). So where did the joke come from?
Alan Rough.
Aye maybe, although I think he gets a tough time on the back of Ari Haan's 45 yarder where he was grasping at air.
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Quote from: gatso on March 22, 2010, 10:50:45 AM
I discounted bonner as he's irish. completely forgot that jennings was the NI 'keeper at the time though
so from 82-84 we had overlap in the 4 home nations plus ireland of shilton, clemence, southall, leighton, bonner and jennings
quite incredible really, won't ever see that again
Was going to throw in Ogrizovic at Coventry as well but while he was playing before 84 he only started at Coventry in 84. Great Keeper but never capped?
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Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: Colchester Kev on March 22, 2010, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: fatshaft on March 22, 2010, 09:14:01 AM
Quote from: gatso on March 22, 2010, 08:27:48 AM
Quote from: Maxriddles on March 21, 2010, 11:14:10 PM
Not too well, most of them are over 50.
good point. add in the fact that they've got a scottish goalkeeper and they're really going to struggle
How can the English, the English of all people, criticise Scottish goalkeeping at this time? You possibly have the worst International goalkeepers in Europe.
I've also always wondered where this comes from, ok, England had possibly the best two keeepers in the world simultaneously in Clemence/Shilton, but Scotland had a run of great keepers too, Harvey, Goram and Leighton (his inexplicable poor spell at the end of his Utd career excepted). So where did the joke come from?
Alan Rough.
Aye maybe, although I think he gets a tough time on the back of Ari Haan's 45 yarder where he was grasping at air.
Was at the end of his career when he turned out for Celtic - would have rathered we kept Hamish MacAlpine (who's got a claim as a great keeper as well).
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fml you're old Rod
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Quote from: Rod Paradise on March 22, 2010, 02:55:26 PM
Quote from: gatso on March 22, 2010, 10:50:45 AM
I discounted bonner as he's irish. completely forgot that jennings was the NI 'keeper at the time though
so from 82-84 we had overlap in the 4 home nations plus ireland of shilton, clemence, southall, leighton, bonner and jennings
quite incredible really, won't ever see that again
Was going to throw in Ogrizovic at Coventry as well but while he was playing before 84 he only started at Coventry in 84. Great Keeper but never capped?
that 2 year overlap was all 6 of them playing internationally at the same time but yeah, oggy wouldn't have made it any easier for a striker in that era. throw in grobbelaar and you've got an astonishing lineup of div 1 goalies
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its interesting that if you just base this on their performances for scotland rather than their club performances you get a completely different team. murdoch ? baxter ? gilzean ? mcneil ? all fantastic players for their club but maybe didnt get the recognition in a scotland jersey the deserved.
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Quote from: lazaroonie on March 22, 2010, 04:49:57 PM
its interesting that if you just base this on their performances for scotland rather than their club performances you get a completely different team. murdoch ? baxter ? gilzean ? mcneil ? all fantastic players for their club but maybe didnt get the recognition in a scotland jersey the deserved.
hansen pushing for a place under that criteria?
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Quote from: gatso on March 22, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: lazaroonie on March 22, 2010, 04:49:57 PM
its interesting that if you just base this on their performances for scotland rather than their club performances you get a completely different team. murdoch ? baxter ? gilzean ? mcneil ? all fantastic players for their club but maybe didnt get the recognition in a scotland jersey the deserved.
hansen pushing for a place under that criteria?
He would be yes - but disqualified for his performances in the commentary box.
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