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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2010, 02:50:46 PM » |
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Assuming our read is correct I am happy to call even though it is pretty marginal.
At this stage with the payout structure which i presume to be very top heavy, I am taking every +cEV spot going and this appears to be +cEV to me.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2010, 03:04:13 PM » |
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Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.
it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked  erm ok I don't get this guy? Think Gatso was spot on. We're likely to be ahead but not by much. we have less than ave we have less than 10bb we are way ahead of his range of any 2 cards and you dont want to get it in? there is no post flop play left in this game you would shove this hand bvb so whats the difference? |
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2010, 03:07:59 PM » |
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Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.
it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked erm ok I don't get this guy? Think Gatso was spot on. We're likely to be ahead but not by much. we have less than ave we have less than 10bb we are way ahead of his range of any 2 cardsand you dont want to get it in? there is no post flop play left in this game you would shove this hand bvb so whats the difference? wow. are you serious with the bit in bold? |
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2010, 03:13:36 PM » |
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if you double bold the "of his range" bit yes
you are just trying to get out of your original dross post.
we are ahead - it is all we can ask when this short
what kind of edge are you looking for
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2010, 03:16:36 PM » |
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what's this range that we're way ahead of? in fact never mind a range, please name a hand that doesn't have a 2 or a 3 in it that we're way ahead of
your definition of way ahead may not be the same as mine
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2010, 03:18:21 PM » |
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what's this range that we're way ahead of? in fact never mind a range, please name a hand that doesn't have a 2 or a 3 in it that we're way ahead of
your definition of way ahead may not be the same as mine
hence why i correct to we are ahead thats all that counts what range you calling with when you know (100%) he has atc |
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2010, 03:20:40 PM » |
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epic brag post. I probs call a8+ 66+
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2010, 03:21:41 PM » |
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Gotta factor in that occasionally we'll have the worst hand here too. Think Pleno's range is more realistic.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2010, 03:27:03 PM » |
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Gotta factor in that occasionally we'll have the worst hand here too. Think Pleno's range is more realistic.
Obv factored that in already, if we are deffo ahead why the hell would we fold. The only other thing to consider is how often the blinds overcall in this spot. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2010, 03:33:43 PM » |
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hence why i correct to we are ahead thats all that counts
what range you calling with when you know (100%) he has atc
soz, I have absolutely no idea what that first line means I take it you can't name a hand we're way ahead of then let alone a range? I call wider than pleno's range if it's a genuine atc, add in some lower aces and big kings and queens. quite likely that A3 falls into my range depending on how I feel at the time tbh I pass A3 in the op's situation though as we're normally not looking at atc |
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2010, 03:37:08 PM » |
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hence why i correct to we are ahead thats all that counts
what range you calling with when you know (100%) he has atc
soz, I have absolutely no idea what that first line means I take it you can't name a hand we're way ahead of then let alone a range? I call wider than pleno's range if it's a genuine atc, add in some lower aces and big kings and queens. quite likely that A3 falls into my range depending on how I feel at the time tbh I pass A3 in the op's situation though as we're normally not looking at atc "normally" we have a defined situation where we can pretty much say it is atc so you choose to disagree with me but not longy you are comedy |
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2010, 03:48:47 PM » |
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so you choose to disagree with me but not longy
err, wtf? pretty sure I disagree with longy Assuming our read is correct I am happy to call even though it is pretty marginal.
I pass A3 in the op's situation though as we're normally not looking at atc
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2010, 07:37:48 AM » |
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a really easy pass
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2010, 09:02:02 AM » |
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a really easy pass
and that is why the raiser loves having people like you on his table. When someone calls with AK he will have stolen enough blinds to take a "free" shot and will bink with his J3 anyway |
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2010, 10:00:50 AM » |
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a really easy pass
and that is why the raiser loves having people like you on his table. When someone calls with AK he will have stolen enough blinds to take a "free" shot and will bink with his J3 anyway lol - why should the raiser love having someone like me at his table. I call light in spots like these but i think you overrate the strength of A3o. Bit of a sweeping statement |
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